The Faint Echoes of the October Revolution: A Centenary of the Capricious Philosophy in the Socio-political life!

24 October 2018

Guest article by Shalan Lal

(No event in history has caused as much impact on the world of politics and ideas as the Russian Revolution of October 1917. And no revolution has strayed as much from its path, turning into a totalitarian regime and causing untold miseries on its people. The political edifice collapsed under its own weight, but it did have a romanticised sway on art, culture and literature for a long time.

The topic of this post is way beyond the scope of this blog, but Shalan Lal has a way of weaving many threads and transcending boundaries in her articles. She shared her first draft long ago, in time for the centenary of the revolution, but I had a lot of comments on her content and presentation. Anyone else would have given up, but she persisted and has redone the article substantially. After the politics, she quickly comes to the echoes of the October Revolution in our films and songs. This would stimulate and provoke, which she encourages liberally. I am happy to present Shalan Lal’s guest article commemorating the completion of a century and one year of  the October Revolution. – AK)    

Communist starThe October Revolution occurred ‘One hundred and one’ years ago on 24 October 1917 in Russia, in Petrograd, renamed later on as Leningrad, and then renamed again, after the Soviet Project was dissolved like an air bubble in 1994, as St Petersburg or Petrograd. (And some say why the changes of Bombay to Mumbai, Madras to Chennai and Calcutta to Kolkata, Poona to Pune, etc. – ironically they all are the echoes of the Red Revolution!)

This seemed to be a practice in politics of many parts of the world. In  Tripura, a Lenin’s statue was knocked down by the jubilant BJP party workers after their victory in the last state election. Here is the picture of the Lenin’s statue being knocked down in the city of Belonia. After knocking down the statue the severed head of the statue was wickedly kicked about. A kind of anger expressed by supposedly civilized BJP members in the style of the knocking down of the statue of Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein after the fall of Iraq. Also the destruction of the Bamiyan Buddha!

To be perfectly blunt, this is an old story. New landowners of a country move in and do their best to obliterate all traces of the conquered land.”

Saddam Hussain statueBamian niche

Saddam Hussein statue. An empty niche where the Bamiyan Buddha once stood.

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Lenin’s downfall in Belonia (Tripura) after the BJP success in Tripura state elections.

In several Eastern European countries, such as Bulgaria, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Poland, Romania and Yugoslavia,  governments inspired by  Marxist–Leninist ideology took power with Soviet assistance and overt intervention.  There were many communists in Germany, France, Spain and Portugal, wishing they would have similar October revolution in their countries. But the WWI stopped them. Spain had a long civil war and the King was overthrown.

In the east, Mao led similar revolution and became communist. Similar changeover happened in Korea, both North and South. Due to M.N.Roy’s Communist Party in Mexico, it spread and remained in the hearts of all the revolutionary fighters in the various states of Latin America to date.

In India, Socialist Party and Communist Party took inspiration from the “October”, henceforth known as the Communist Revolution. To some extent Congress also used some methods and ideas of the October and its ideologies. Gandhi, without realizing, had many anti-capitalist ideas in his philosophy. His famous Salt March was echoed in various hunger marches in Europe, England and Russia. His political fasts and abstentions also were the strategies used by the prisoners in England and France and the suffragettes were force-fed. His Khadi soot-kataai was part of John Ruskin’s Art and Craft Movement. John Ruskin was friendly to Marx. Gandhi came to London when Marx and Marxists were active. Gandhi was more influenced by John Ruskin’s ideology than the communist pamphlets distributed at the meetings and specially at the Hyde Park’s famous Speaker Corner.

After Indian Independence in 1947 and when the country became democratic republic, in the state of Kerala EMS Nambudripad, a Marxist Communist became the Chief Minister of Kerala.

He implemented two Marxist reforms: one in education and the other in the land reforms that had very lasting effect in Kerala. His rule did not last very long. But Krishna Menon, a hard-boiled communist, was a very close friend of Nehru from the time Menon was active in London. Menon founded Indian Film Society in London as far back as in the forties. He also created a hostel for the Indian students in London right behind the present Indian High Commission and created Indian students discussion forum. He was the second Councillor elected by the British people for the Borough of Camden in London. The other was the first elected in another Borough of London.

Later in West Bengal Jyoti Basu became the Chief Minister. He ruled for 23 years. He made communism accepted in Bengal and the states where Bengal influence flourished, like Tripura, Assam etc, but according to his critics he ran down Sonar Bangla state while other states flourished.

A new Order of thinking in socio-politics came and among many people, it dangled a kind of Utopia before their eyes. Some thought it was a panacea for all human problems. The book Utopia, written by Thomas More was studied by Karl Marx.

It was believed that Vladimir Lenin engineered the “October Revolution” on the foundation of Karl Max’s philosophy. Marx was a researcher-reader at the British Museum library, London and wrote many pamphlets and a big book called Das Kapital which became the Bible of the new thinking process called Communism. Writing a pamphlet was a fashion among the European Intelligentsia from the middle ages.

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Lenin during the Russian Revolution

Das Kapital has many parents as philosophers and thinkers like Martin Luther the reformist, George Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel (1770-1831), Immanuel Kant (1724-1804), Friedrich Engels (1820-1895), and the Renaissance and Enlightenment in Europe all contributed in the making of Das Kapital.

In the October revolution, Lenin’s Bolsheviks (the party workers) on 24 October 1917 attacked the Winter Palace, the seat of Russian Royals called Romanovs for three hundred years, sacked and arrested the ruling King Emperor Nicolas II Tsar and his family, and later on cruelly killed one and all. The king had just joined the WWI and took his starving army to die in the trenches in huge numbers.

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The Russian Royal family, the Romanovs
(Front, from Left: Maria, Tsar Nicholas,Tsarina, Prince, Alexandra,
Back row: Olga, Tatiana)

The 1917 execution of the last Russian Tsar Nicholas II, and his wife Alexandra and his children at the hands of Bolsheviks to date is seen as an act of terror that became inlaid in the Communist thinking by non-communist people and they are usually repulsed away from Communism. The rules of Joseph Stalin, Mao, and the present and past rulers of North Korea etc. are all associated badly with Communism and using unlimited power over their people.

Thus new religion or philosophy established a byword “Communism”. Communism was seen as a rival force and a threat to the western capitalism for most of the 20th century.

Communism is a political and economic doctrine that aimed to replace private property and a profit-based economy with public ownership and collective control of the major means of production (e.g. mines, mills, factories, farms etc.) and also the natural resources of a society. It is thus a form of socialism – a higher and more advanced form, according to its advocates. Exactly how communism differs from socialism has long been a matter of debate, but the distinction rests largely on the communists’ adherence to the revolutionary socialism of Karl Marx.

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Marx’s Bible Book; Engels, Marx & his daughters; Lenin’s Statue in Kolkata

In politics and social sciences, communism (from Latin Communis, “common, universal”) is the philosophical, social, political and economic ideology and movement whose ultimate goal is the establishment of the communist society, which is a socio-economic ordered structure upon the common ownership of the means of production and the absence of social classes, money and the state.

The Reds, as commonly communists were called, had their theories on many established ideas and styles of life. On religion, literature, and arts they had saliently different views. Communism being the driving force for seventy years behind the ruling party, it created a new way of looking at everything cooked behind the “Iron Curtain”. They used the words like anti-social, enemy of the people, bourgeois – all to demean and demonise the idea, aims and objectives of the capitalist way of life.

The October Revolution spanned Marxist and Communist ideas all over the world. They also spread the aggressive practice of demonstrations, protest marches, and eventually masses taking over the establishments with violence etc. In the arts they encouraged revival of many kinds of changes, and art and arts became more public-oriented than catering for the conservative, elite and royal audiences. The new Russia, or Soviet Russia (Soviet means councils of common people), let flourish the Russian glorious ballet, music, painting and new art of film making, circus art, literatures etc. as long as these were not anti-government.

From the Indian point of view two Russian arts became influencing factors. The great Russian ballet dancer and renowned ballerina Anna Pavlov arrived in London and made it her home. This was a period in European dance and music that had usual themes that became fatigued and the artists were looking towards East for inspiration. Some dancers used ancient Egyptian themes and others were touching Far East. Anna Pavlov started looking for Indian dance themes.

At the beginning of the 20th century, dance in India was either locked in as “Daasi Attam” in the temples or became seduction vehicles of the red district ladies. Some religious mendicants or just beggars did dancing steps on the streets and earned their alms.

Uday Shankar was in London at the Arts School of the University of London, studying advanced level of art as he had done the basic degree at Bombay’s prestigious J.J. School of Art. His father was a Diwan (a minister) of a small principality in Rajputana, later on Rajasthan. Subsequently, he became an impresario and promoter of the Indian Arts in England and Europe.

Anna Pavlov met Uday Shankar. She trained him as a dancer and then she presented a cabaret like show called Radha and Krishna. She was Radha and he was Krishna. The show dazzled the London audience and went around Europe with stunning success.

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Uday Shankar imbibed Indian dance and went to India and did a stock-taking of all the existing dances.  He did sketches of the temple arts and cave paintings etc. He created many dances and ensembles and changed the attitude of the Indians towards dance. Anna Pavlov visited India and presented her ballet shows and met Rukmini Devi and her theosophist husband. She inspired Rukmini Devi with many ideas and practical demonstrations and asked her to revive Indian dance.

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Rest is history. Indian films were immensely benefited. Gone were the days when Mumtaz Ali, a street dancer, composed dances for the Bombay Talkies films.

RK Film Awara presented a mammoth three part dance which was spiritual at its heart. It was choreographed by Madame Simkie, an artist in the troupe of Uday Shankar, because Uday Shankar did not want to be associated with Hindi films which were then not respected as high arts.

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Simkie’s above pictures are from the article by Minai Minai in her own blog in which she reviewed the documentary made on Simkie by her niece in 2010. In the comment section Mr Gaddeswarup, the renowned member of SoY, has commented on his search for the film Kalpana of Uday Shankar. (There is an exciting news for the serious lovers of cinema. ‘Kalpna’ which was considered lost and untraceable has appeared on the YouTube, fully restored and sub-titled, courtesy Tom Daniel. Richard has written an interesting post on the search for the film and the significance of its discovery. – AK)

Another great effect was due to the Russian film director and theorist Sergei Mikhailovich Eisenstein. He created a silent film, forever great, called “October: Ten Days That Shook the World” in 1927. My title has an echo of his title. The film became extremely popular all over the world because of its subject and the film art. Especially his mass scenes and madness in the masses’ behaviour, montage etc. in the film got appreciation from all levels of the audiences. He was invited by the Warner Brothers to make a film in Hollywood. Somehow, the theme was not appreciated and he did not make the film. But he lectured on many aspects of film making and did some advisory work to the Hollywood film makers. Stalin did not like his staying in America and he sent a nasty message to him to return to Russia.

V.Shantaram’s partners Damle and Fattelal Sheikh remade his silent film Gopal Krishna (1927) into a talkie in 1938, in which Krishna had a duel with his uncle Kans. The ordinary Gokulvasi people stormed the Kans palace which was very similar to the storming of the Winter Palace in the Eisenstein film October. (This is problematic. This familiar mythological story is from Krishna legend. Whether you take western Indologists or traditional Indian scholars, this predates the October Revolution by several thousand years. Can it be called carrying echoes of October Revolution?– AK)

V. Shantaram used many ideas, skills and techniques in many films after the films of Eisenstein. Google paid a tribute to V.Shataram by creating this doodle on their Home Page on his 116th birth day in November 2017 .

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Eisenstein’s book on the effects in the film art became very famous. The word ‘montage’ was freely used by the film makers in India. Many films produced in India, post 1938 had Eisenstein effect.

Communism soon came to India post-Russian Revolution in 1917. Some believed that it came through Manvendra Nath Roy. However in the Victorian period of India in many Indian states, the learned people wrote articles and discussed the new way to govern a state without Royal head.

Manvendra Nath Roy was an armed Bengali revolutionary who was charged with looting post offices, railway stations and often killing British officers and Indian officers who worked for the British Empire as early as the beginning of twentieth century. There is a definitive and comprehensive wonderful book called ‘M.N. Roy’ by V.B. Karmik who was his close follower. On the back of the dust cover of the book is written “Roy’s Journey through life from a Terrorist to a Humanist”. So there was a Valmiki in a Marxist world! Some of his followers say that the novel Pather Dabi written by Sarat Chandra was based on the life and revolutionary activities of M.N. Roy.

When the British rulers put a warrant on his head like many other revolutionaries, he fled from India in search of help from Japan and Germany which failed him. He went to America and like Marx read books in the famous Central Library of New York. But he was chased out by the American Secret Service. He arrived in Mexico at the time of the Bolsheviks Revolution in Russia. He was very impressed and created a Communists Party in Mexico, the first such outside Russia. Lenin was very impressed by him and invited him to attend the second Russian International Conference. He went and Lenin appointed him to create Indian Communist Party. Rest is history.

But he stayed on in Moscow and became an assistant to Lenin in executing various portfolios. After the death of Lenin, Stalin started purging, including killing of Bukharin and Trotsky. Roy left Moscow before his turn came to be arrested by the henchmen of Stalin. Stalin can be remembered only along with Ivan the Terrible, Changez Khan, Timur Lang, Hitler etc.

Roy arrived in Bombay in disguise as Dr. Mehmood and started meeting upper crust and elite people to create his party called ‘Radical Humanism’. He got good support from judges, professors, scientists, and film makers like Wadia Brothers. The outfit became very famous, but it was not good enough to challenge the Congress party. Roy dissolved it and made his organisation as ‘a work in progress of thinkers’ in politics called ‘Radical Humanists’.

In the Indian art and film world there were many communist co-travellers. JBH Wadia became a very close friend of Roy and his many films contained material that could be inspired by the October. There is a great researched book written by Rosie Thomas called Bombay before Bollywood: Film City Fantasies. Following is a condensed extract from it:

“Inspired by radical Marxist and humanist ideas of M.N. Roy, Jamshetji B Wadia left the Congress party and became a member of Roy’s ‘Radical Democratic Party’. He now focused on infusing his stunt films with social issues. Nadia starred in Lutaru Lalna (Dacoit Damsel, 1938), Punjab Mail (1938), Diamond Queen (1940) which dealt with women’s emancipation, close to M.N.Roy’s priority issue. The film became a great success at the box office and with the film critics. The Filmindia remarked “a thought provoking film that enlightens as well as entertains”.

JBH Wadia made Raj Nartaki (1941) with Sadhana Bose and Prithviraj Kapoor. The popularity of this film made classical dance popular in the Hindi films. His later films like Vishvas (1943), and Mela (1948) starring Dilip Kumar and Nargis became roaring successes. Even a gambler and speculator like Sardar Chandulal Shah had his heart in the reformation of the Indian society and faintly loved October like happenings showed in his films. The spirit of the October and communist thinking could be seen in many works of literatures and films of thirties, forties, fifties and sixties etc.

In many ways Jawaharlal Nehru was also impressed by the Russian works of the post-October as seen in his 5-year Plans.

The Bombay Talkies had more consideration for the small workers than top actors and their welfare in their day to day running of the Studio. In the last days of the Bombay Talkies the Workers were allowed to run the studio on a co-operative basis. Co-operative movement was Lenin’s creation. Sadly it did not work as the film Baadbaan (1954), the first and perhaps the last film of the co-operative idea, failed at the box office though the film was enthusiastically seen at the Roxy theatre and many theatres in the opening week in Bombay.

October Revolution also inspired projects like Indian People’s Theatre Association (IPTA). They had opened two wings of this idea, one in Calcutta and one in Bombay. IPTA at Calcutta created artists like Bimal Roy whose early film Udayer Pathe had a thick shadow of the October. His many later films had that touch as well. The other artists like Anil Biswas, Salil Chaudhari, S.D.Burman and many others always had communist thinking in their work. IPTA at Bombay had K.A. Abbas, Chetan Anand, Dev Anand, Goldie Anand, Balraj Sahni and many others including Raj Kapoor who often visited IPTA in his spare time. IPTA often had meetings to showcase films at the Opera House in Bombay.

B.R. Chopra and his brother Yash Chopra and many others had leftist thinking in them. Writers like K.A. Abbas and his associate Sathe, besides their own productions, provided stories and scripts to V. Shantaram, Raj Kapoor and other producers as well.

From the films like President (1937), Hum Log (1951), Awara (1951) to Do Bigha Zameen (1953), Pyasa (1957), Phir Subah Hogi (1958) through Sujata (1959) to Sahib Bibi Aur Ghulam (1962) and many more films, Russian socio-political attitudes were seen coming through. After Awara, the music also used various influences along with chorus songs and musical instrument like accordion etc. The chorus songs were supported and allowed to flourish in the USSR as part of the collective culture.

Mehboob, the great film director whom a journalist called Cecil B(lount) DeMille of India as the title of his definitive book on him, had Hammer and Sickle as his trade mark. His film Aurat (1940) and its later remake Mother India (1957) had thick shadow of the Russian revolution and Russian film art. His many films had themes of rich against the have-nots. (These two are overtly socialistic films; besides there is a tendency to view ‘Anmol Ghadi’ and ‘Aan’ through this prism. Poor boy-rich girl became a common trope in Hindi films, but it would be quite a stretch to view them as inspired by socialistic ideas. – AK)

Poets and lyrics writers like Shailendra and Sahir Ludhiyanvi’s works were dominated by communist ideas.

I have titled this post as “The Faint Echoes of the October Revolution”. This is because the Indian films had capital invested by the Punjipati community and their main interest was to get their capital plus percentage on the profits. So the films had to have universal appeal and not dry Marxism.

The rich Russian literature directly and indirectly affected the great writers like Sarat Chandra and Premchand. Many stories of the Hindi, Bengali and South Indian films had a look like the Russian stories. The great Gemini film Chandrlekha had a cruel ruler in its theme and had socialistic ending. Both Manto and Upendranath Ashk started their literary career by translating Russian stories that reflected the general discontent of the Russian people before the revolution. There were many similar writers in other Indian languages as well.

I have chosen following films and their songs that had a touch of October Revolution.

1) Industrial India (1938): The film’s name is shockingly attractive. It had another name (Nirala India). The song is Main baagi hun, zamaane ko badal dungi. Composed by Anil Biswas and sung by Shobhana Samarth the heroine of the film. (There are three music directors in this film, the other two being Harishchandra Bali and Mushtaq Hussain. HFGK credits this song to Harishchandra Bali. The song does not seem to be available on the YouTube. – AK)

2) Gopal Krishna (1938): Prabhat Film Co. Director V. Shantaram, starring Shanta Apte and Ram Marathe as Krishna. Later on Ram Marathe became a classical singer and actor. Music by Master Krishnarao who also became respected in the classical musical theatre of Maharashtra.

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Storming of the Kans Palace

The mythological story of Krishna turned into a revolutionary idea of have-nots against the cruel establishment. नाचत झूमत जायें -२ गोकुल को गोप सारे, a chorus song led by Shanta Apte, who was very pretty and had a sweet singing voice, who is joined by Parshuram and Ram Marathe.  Lyric by Pt. Anuj was composed by Master Krishnarao. (This song does not seem to be of storming of the Kans’s Palace, but of gopes going towards Yamuna for fun and frolic. – AK)

Naachat jhoomat jaayein Gokul ko Gope saare by Shanta Apte, Ram Marathe and Parashuram from Gopal Krishna (1938), lyrics SL Sivastava ‘Anuj’, music Master Krishna Rao

3) Aurat (1940): Directed by Mehboob, starring Sardar Akhtar, Surendra, Yaqub, Kanhaiyalal etc. Music by Anil Biswas, lyrics by Safdar ‘Aah’. Song Kahe karta der baraati

अ : काहे काहे करता देर बराती
को : देर बराती
अ : काहे करता देर
को : काहे करता देर -२
अ : जाना है तोहे पी की नगरिया

This is a chorus song led by Anil Biswas himself. The word baraati has more meanings than just a member of the marriage procession. As a singer Anil Biswas faintly disappeared in the forties. But he is remembered by his friend C. Ramchandra as he joined the recording of the song Jawani ki rail chali jaaye for the film Shehnai (1947). He and Anil Biswas both noticed a very thin girl (Lata Mangeshkar) in the chorus voice. (This information is from the autobiography of C.Ramchandra in Marathi called Mazhya Jiwanachi Sargam. If you listen to the song you can locate Lata’s voice and also the voice of Meena Kapoor).

Anil Biswas gave unique priority to the chorus songs in his films and later on many composers developed their own chorus songs. Chorus songs are Russian way of singing and it was central part of the IPTA training and productions.

Kaahe karta der baraati by Anil Biswas & chorus from Aurat (1940), lyrics Safdar ‘Aah’, music Anil Biswas

4) President (1937): Directed by Nitin Bose who became very famous for his directions during the period of the New Theatres. The film had a theme of industry and strike too, apart from the love triangle.

The film had Saigal as the lead actor and Leela Desai as the heroine. Music was by RC Boral and Pankaj Mullick. All the Saigal songs became very famous. Here is the most famous song from the film.

Ek bangla bane nyara sung by Saigal. The lyric is by Kidar Sharma. The song presents the dream house of all who are have-nots. The themes like ‘Roti, Kapada, Makan’ are the core of communists’ demands.

एक बँगला बने न्यारा
रहे कुनबा जिसमें सारा

सोने का बँगला, चंदन का जँगला
विश्वकर्मा के द्वारा
अति सुन्दर प्यारा प्यारा
एक बँगला …

इतना ऊँचा बँगला हो ये
मानो गगन का तारा – ३
जिसपे चढ़ के इंद्रधनुष पर
झूला झूले चाँद हमारा
भंडार होये लछमी के हाथों में सारा
पाए अब जी भर के सुख जिसने बिपत उठाई

5) Achhut (1940): This film was made under the banner of Ranjit Movietone by Sardar Chandulal Shah, not to be confused with Achhut Kanya by the Bombay Talkies of 1936. The story is written by Chandulal himself and directed by him as well. The film had pretty Miss Gauhar as the heroine, Motilal as the hero and other well-known actors. The music is by Gyan Dutt. The theme Achhut is something similar in Russia of peasants have-nots and ruling class. But in India it is mixed with religion for three thousand years. In India various saints tried to abolish it in the past. Guru Nanak Maharaj tried to rub out in his new Panth ‘Sikh’ religion but it is still there as the Sikh religion has Valmiki Panth for the Achhut, Chamar etc.

In South Africa, Gandhi noticed that his wife was practising untouchability and tried to educate her against it. On return to India he lived in the ‘Bhangiwada’, an area where the cleaners of excrement lived. He gave Achhut a new name Harijan.

On the launch of the Chandulal Shah’s film Achhut, Sardar Vallabh Bhai Patel, the iron man of India, stated on 23 December 1939. “If the picture helps India to remove this curse, it can be said to have helped India win Swaraj as untouchability is one of the chief obstacles on the road to freedom”. But it did not work to date. Dr. Ambedkar turned his people into Buddhist religion.

Marxism clearly states, all people are equal and their unequal state is created by the environment and by the unequal distribution of the resources. Here is a song in the voice of Miss Gauhar (She was the companion of Ranjit Studio boss, not to be confused with the legendary courtesan-singer Gauhar Jaan. – AK)

Door hato ji, door hato ji, chhodo raah hamari, suno ghanti hamari  by Miss Gauhar & others from Achhut (1940), lyrics PL Santoshi, music Gyan Dutt

The untouchables were made to walk with a bell ringing in their hands so their shadows would not fall on the upper class people and pollute them.

The film was hit at the box office. The Filmindia had generous praise in full review. Many people presently do not have a very high regard for the magazine. But the reference and the quotation is from an article from the magazine. So there is some value seen in Filmindia from its inception in 1935 till the death of Baburao Patel in the eighties.

6) Diamond Queen (1940)

This is a classic film from the Wadia Brothers with a huge success and was shown many times all through the forties in many theatres in Bombay.

This is an extract of an interview in the seventies with the Fearless Nadia, who was trained in shorthand typing to get a good job, but at the same time “I got very fat so I decided to reduce.” In order to lose weight, she took up dancing at a school run by a Russian dance teacher named Madame Astrova. Madame Astrova saw talent in Mary “because I was very supple and good despite being fat“. She was a member of Astrova’s dance/theatre troupe which travelled around India and was spotted by JBH Wadia and he goaded her to act as Nadia in his films.

The plots of many early movies were just an excuse for stunt performance, but pretty soon Nadia also became a somewhat political figure — becoming a voice for Marxist and humanist social messages of JBH. For instance, in her blockbuster movie, Diamond Queen (1940), she not only beat up the evil owners of a diamond mine running on child labour, but also delivered a lecture on women’s rights and education being the path to freedom — the same kind of things that we talk about today. Her movie characters personified freedom, equality, and ironically, presented a picture of what the new Indian woman should aspire to be in a soon to be independent India”, Riyadh Wadia, great nephew of Mary Ann Evans aka Nadia and grandson of JBH, told australiaunlimited.com.

In the films of Nadia the following actors appeared as stock characters: Fearless Nadia, John Cawas, Sayani Atish, Kedarnath, Boman Shroff, Radha Rani, Sardar Mansur, Fatima, Dalpat, Kunjru and a horse named ‘Ghoda Punhaba da’, and a motor car that would start with a kick, and a motor cycle occasionally.

The film Diamond Queen (1940) had a chorus song, Bhai padho likho vidwan bano, Bharat ki sachchi shaan bano by Radharani, Mansoor and others, lyrics Munshi Sham, music Madhulal Damodar Master.

7) Zeenat (1945)

Zeenat was a Muslim social melodrama directed by Syed Shaukat Hussain Rizvi and starring Noor Jehan, Yakub, Majid, Himalayawala, and Karan Dewan. It was produced by Shirazali Hakim, Ramzanali and S. Lakhani. The film’s story and dialogues were written by Wajahat Mirza Changezi. The music was composed by Mir Saheb and Hafiz Khan while the background music was provided by Rafiq Ghaznavi. It was dominated by the presence of Muslims all around except for the nominal presence of Karan Diwan. This film and earlier film Khandan (1942) had impressive Muslim themes, remembered for the songs and music, and the helplessness superbly acted by Noor Jehan.

Themes like these used to be explored by the Muslim writers, actors, musicians and others . Credit for this goes to what was called ‘Progressive Muslim Group’. It was seen as a bright star among the Muslim society. It might have been started by the establishment of Aligarh University which created facilities for education for Muslim men and women. The ‘Progressive Muslim Group’ had all great socialist and communist Muslim thinkers and writers in it.  However, the activities of the progressive Muslims suffered a roadblaock by the end of the forties as Pakistan was created on religious basis. The work of the progressive Muslims disappeared as terror arose by the Ayatollah movement in Iran.  The situation has worsened with the spread of the idea of Islamic State.

In this context the song बुलबुलो मत रो यहाँ आँसू बहाना है मना is very poignant and important and tell us that the state of Muslim women is not going to change for a long time. But presumably the state of even the Muslim women in the states, formerly under the Soviet Union, is quite progressive. I recently saw an International Women’s Football match and the team from Kazakhstan was divinely skilful.

बुलबुलो मत रो यहाँ आँसू बहाना है मना
इन क़फ़स के क़ैदियों को ग़ुल मचाना है मना

छोड़ कर तूफ़ाँ में ये मल्लाह कह कर चल दिया
डूब जा मझधार में साहिल पे आना है मना

मैं हूँ वो फ़रियाद जिस का सुनने वाला चल बसा
मैं हूँ वो आँसू जिसे दामन पे आना है मना

Bulbulo mat ro yahan aansoo bahana hai mana by Noorjehan from Zeentat (1945), lyrics Mahrul Qadri, music Hafeez Khan

8) Dr. Kotnis Ki Amar Kahani (1946)

In one of his rallies Jawaharlal Nehru appealed to the fresh graduates from medical colleges that China was in trouble as it was invaded by Japan and Indian doctors must go and help the wounded Chinese soldiers. Four young doctors decided to go to China. Among them was one Dr Shantaram Kotnis from Sholapur. They all went and helped the wounded soldiers, but Dr Kotnis stayed on carrying on his work. He married a Chinese co-nurse but sadly he caught a disease from a wounded soldier and died there.

On this story K.A. Abbas wrote a novel titled ‘One that did not come back’. Shantaram decided to make a film on the bravery of Dr Kotnis. K.A. Abbas and his associate Sathe wrote the script. Diwan Sharar wrote the lyrics and Shantram made the film that became immortal and was used again and again by the Indian government to show that the relationship with China was very good. When Japan invaded, China had Mao Tse Tung as the Communist leader of China.

Zindagi zindagi, zindagi koi sapana nahin is a chorus song led by Khan Mastana, and composed by Vasant Desai. In the song common people were shown in various shots to suggest that Dr Kotins was going to China which had already adopted communism as they fought against Japan. There is a song Nai dulhan, nai dulhan, main hun nanhi nai dulhan sung by Jayshree. It is in Chinese melody. This song might have been an inspiration for Madan Mohan who composed a chorionic song for the dream sequence of Bhagwan in Gateway of India (1957) in which Chinese children sing along. Madan Mohan had some Shantaram connection. When he came back from the WWII, he was looking for a break in the film world. Shantaram made a film in 1944 called Parbat Pe Apana Dera in which he gave a small role to Madan Mohan.

Zindagi zindagi koi sapna nahin by Khan Mastana & chorus from Dr Kotnis Ki Kahani (1946), lyrics Diwan Sharar, music Vasant Desai

9) Hum Ek Hain (1946): Toot gaya meri mata ka sapna toot gaya

The film was made by the Prabhat Company and the theme was about the exploitation of farmers by zamindars and communal harmony. This can be seen as an allegorical film referring to the Independence Movement.

Toot gaya meri mata ka sapna toot gaya by Zohra Ambalewali from Hum Ek Hain (1946), lyrics PL Santoshi, music Husnlal-Bhagatram

10) Hum Log (1951)

This is an overtly communist film with the face of Balraj Sahni. He did not have to do much acting. He continuously talked pointedly about the discontent of the family equating to the state of political situation. Fantastically brilliant dialogues and energetically acted out by all actors and vividly directed by Zia Sarhadi. Roshan composed superb music to the lyrics written by Vishwaitra Adil and Uddhav Kumar.

The songs of great Roshan shone. Chali ja chali ja in Lata’s voice, Dil ki pareshaniyan in the voice of Mukesh, and the chorus song Gaye chala ja, ek din tera bhi zamana ayega in the lead voices of Lata Mangeshkar and GM Durrani – all are magnificent.

The Bollywood films during that period would not have gone any further in the communist subject as they all got caught on the lovey dovey dopey ‘Laila Majnu’ escapism.

11) Awara (1951): Hum tujhse muhabbat kar ke sanam rote bhi rahe and hanste bhi rahe

Raj Kapoor’s film Awara became very popular in Soviet Russia. The Soviet Russia established artistic relationship with the Indian film artists. The first delegation of the Indian artists invited to visit Soviet Russia was led by Raj Kapoor. Among them were Nargis, Balaraj Sahani, Nirupa Roy, Dev Aanand, and many others. At various meetings Raj Kapoor sang his own songs from Awara and other films. The delegation became very popular and there were many more exchange visits to each other countries.

Often some critics said the film Awara became popular because the Soviet states like Kyrgyzstan, Turkmenistan etc. near to India had historical relationship with India. But in the sixties a delegation of students came to London and I met them. As soon as they knew I was an Indian some of them sang the Awara song. This delegation was all from the western states of Russia.

The film Awara had the communist Marxist theme – ‘The environment, and not the birth, makes the fate of the people.’

Hum tujhse muhabbat kar ke sanam rote bhi rahe hanste bhi rahe by Mukesh from Awara (1951), lyrics Hasrat Jaipuri, music Shankar-Jaikishan

12) Do Bigha Zameen (1953)

This film is an all-time great classic showing the harsh reality of the world of zamindars who exploited and cheated the poor people shamelessly. This film was produced and directed by Bimal Roy who was very influenced by the Russian Revolution. His music director Salil Chaudhari too belonged to the IPTA. This film had wonderful music and songs. The lyrics were written by Shailendra who worked as a Railway engineer in the workshop at Matunga, Bombay and read poems in the workers’ monthly meetings. All the songs in this film became very famous.

The song Bhai re, Ganga aur Jamuna ki… Dharati kahe pukar ke, a chorus song in the lead voices of Manna Dey and Lata Mangeshkar is in tune with this subject.

Bhai re, Ganga aur Jamuna ki… Dharati kahe pukar ke by Manna Dey, Lata Mangeshkar & chorus from Do Bigha Zameen (1953), lyrics Shailendra, music Salil Chaudhary

13) Baadbaan (1954): Aaya Toofan in the voice of Hemant Kumar, Music Timir Baran and S.K. Pal

The film was made to save the Bombay Talkies as the workers took over and made a co-operative. All the songs were good and actors gave good, solid performance. But the Co-op did not work well and the Bombay Talkies went into oblivion. Make a note that the Co-Op is the idea of Lenin who believed that co-operative movement will bring comprehensive wealth and progress in the society. There was an art film made about the milk co-operative that would solve the problem of farming and food in India.

Aya toofan…Kaise koi jiye by Hemant Kumar from Baadbaan (1954), lyrics Indivar, music Timir Baran & S.K. Pal

14) Boot Polish (1953): Nanhe munne bachche teri mutthi mein kya hai by Rafi, Asha Bhosle and others, lyrics Shailendra, music Shankar-Jaikishan

Raj Kapoor became responsible for building a relationship with Soviet Russia. I choose the above song not from Awara, but from the film Boot Polish. This song has an appeal that children have their future in their own hands and not in the hands of the adults, society or the governments. So children have better future than becoming the street urchins, a very Marxist thinking!

15) Phir Subah Hogi (1958): Title song Woh subah kabhi to ayegi

Phir Subah Hogi (1958) was a very communist film with the ending song Woh subah kabhi to ayegi, a great composition of Khayyam to match the poetry of Sahir Ludhiyanavi in the voices of Mukesh and Asha Bhosle, that tells about the Communist Dream in melancholic and depressed notes.

The film was based on the great novel Crime and Punishment written by a Russian literary giant Fyodor Dostoevsky, one of the major writers whose writings depicted the miserable state of the Russian society before the Russian Revolution.

If one looks for, there may be many more films and songs that have ‘communist feel’.

I finish my journey into the October Revolution and its faint echoes in the Hindi films and songs. But the SoY readers may find there could be many more appropriate scenes and songs in the Hindi films than my choice. So I wish you well for looking for the gold and diamonds in the dust.

Now as an epilogue I want to say that this way of looking at the songs and scenes in the Hindi films is more satisfying than just getting hooked on the syrupy sweet juice in the songs. I am aware many observations I have made are contentious; AK has already recorded his  contrary comments on some aspects. In the spirit of free debate I present my article before the erudite readers of the SoY for discussion, observations and comments.

Acknowledgement and Disclaimer: The illustrations are taken from Wikipedia. The song links have been taken from the YouTube only for the purpose of enjoyment of music lovers. The copyright belongs to the respective owners.

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1 Ashok M Vaishnav October 24, 2018 at 10:35 am

Linking of a social (politico-economic) event in the history with its impact on the films of that and subsequent period is indeed a path-breaking approach to the blogging on Hindi Film Songs.
Films essentially being a medium of entertainment, one may expect it to mirror the society, particularly in the normative manner.
However, it also remains a fact that there have enough film-makers who have made sincere efforts to catch the ethos of socio-cultural undercurrents of he times and presented them in the form of film art.
Congratulations to Shalan Lalji for charting a new course in the HFM blogging club.
AKji also does deserve a very special mention for not only playing an active facilitator for providing the creative platform for the readers of SoY but also playing the role of an ideal catalyst to the interventions of guest articles on HIS blog.

2 Arunkumar Deshmukh October 24, 2018 at 11:01 am

AK ji,
# 3 song.
It is mentioned that Anil Biswas attended the recording of Shehnai-47 and the information is from CR’s autobiography in Marathi. This is not true.
I have this book with me. I have wriiten a 3 part translation of this in English and it was published on anmolfankaar.com.
The incident of AB attending CR’s recording was in 1942 film Sukhi Jeevan. It is described in details in the book. I give below the relevant part in English…
” The producer of Sukhi Jeevan-1942 was one Mr. Harishchandra Kadam. Right from begining he must have seen something special in C Ramchandra. He encouraged him to a great extent, praised his tunes and introduced him to all visitors with pride.

On the day of recording his first ever Hindi film song(a chorus song) all arrangements were done. Chorus singers were ready, musicians were ready and technicians were ready. Suddenly, a set of visitors arrived at the studio. The visitors were all top composers of the day like Anil Biswas, K.Datta, Naval Chatterjee and some others.They all had heard about C Ramchandra, his tunes and his work. They wanted to see how he operated. C Ramchandra had tremendous respect for Anil Biswas. He knew that the contributions of Anil Biswas to Hiny Film Music was praiseworthy. Anil Biswas was a master of harmonization technique in western and indian music instruments.

C Ramchandra described this event thus-

” It was my great fortune that a senior composer whom I considered as my Guru was present at my first recording. To my greatest surprise all the visitors joined the Chorus group for singing. I just wanted to check if final take can be taken. I said one ..two..three and the song and music started, but I felt something was wrong. One singer was sounding different. I stopped and ran outside to singers. To my shock it was Anilda who put a Teevr Nishad which was not in my composition. He smilingly asked, is it Ok ? I said respectfully, No Dada, this is not right. He very magnanimously and without further questions agreed and they all sang on my tune only !.”

So, AB never attended CR’s recording after this. In fact AB was upset about the songs of Shehnai and he tried to criticise CR on phone also, but CR met him and convinced him.

3 AK October 24, 2018 at 1:18 pm

Ashokji,
Thanks a lot for your appreciation. I am lucky that SoY regulars have wide-ranging interests and can enjoy participating in such discussions.

Arunji,
Shalan Lal must have mixed up with this incident. After many back and forth interactions I have left it to her to defend her facts and opinions.

4 Subodh Agrawal October 24, 2018 at 1:24 pm

Well, Shalan Lal has given us a well-researched article like Mr Rangan. Well done and thanks. The first song that came to my mind was the last in the list.

I guess ‘Main garibon ka dil’ from ‘Aab e Hayat’ 1955 would make the cut. Also ‘Ramaiya Vastavaiya’ from ‘Shri 420’ which speaks of the eternal clash between the rich and poor. The film ‘Neecha Nagar’ was specifically on this theme. I had seen it on TV, but remember it only faintly.

5 Ashwin Bhandarkar October 24, 2018 at 7:18 pm

Shalan,

Will read the post and listen to the songs at leisure over the weekend. I am sure the read will be very educative. In the meanwhile, a couple of random comments based on a quick perusal of the contents of your post:

1. The first film that comes to my mind when one mentions the October Revolution is ‘Dr.Zhivago’, and almost immediately, what follows is the recollection of ‘Lara’s Theme’ and the sound of the balalaika. What haunting music!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=issQMeNinIQ

2. ‘Kaise koi jiye’ is one of my favourite songs and it was only yesterday that I was listening to both versions – Geeta Dutt’s, as well as Hemant Kumar’s – over and over again. And today I see this post featuring the song! What a coincidence !

6 Uma Maheswar Nakka October 24, 2018 at 8:40 pm

Good Evening Sir,
Happy vijayadasami.
Thanks for this amazing article of great value, the value of which can neither be estimated, counted, measured or weighed in any kind.
Regards
Uma

7 Subodh Agrawal October 24, 2018 at 9:56 pm

Re my earlier comment. The ‘Shri 420’ song I had in my mind was ‘Dil ka haal sune dilwala’.

8 ksbhatia October 25, 2018 at 12:57 am

Ms. Shalan Lal ;

Your article shows your dedication , hardwork and indepth knowledge . You deserve to be proud of your achievement .

Like Ashwin Bhandarkar , my first thought also went his way recalling october revolution as a backdrop of a movie ….David Lean’s epic Dr Zhivago . I love that film for its music and production values .

The immediate thought there after was K.A. Abbas , best known for his last page comments appearing every week in Blitz of the 60s and ….a successful story writer for R.K films and his own produced or directed films . A purest follower of communism went out to direct such subjective movies like …..char dil char rahen….and ….Indo /soviet production Pardesi . Both the movies belong to serious cinema catagories with limited success . Yes the songs were very good ….classics to the core beautifully composed by Anil Biswas .

Kadam kadam dil se dil mila rahe hai hum…..a revolutional parade of labour brigade ……char dil char rahen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOo00vRy38o

Rasiya re man basiya re……a soft love call of hidden love……Pardesi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkHY0JLi3kE

Phir milenge jane wale yar dasvidaniya….an emotional bye bye…Pardesi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=971TiVY183s

The R K , K A Abaas love for russia continued in Mera Naam Joker and second part of it totally devoted to love affair of Raju with russian artist….with circus as backdrop . SJ excelled in background music ….

Theme music ……

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzB5W_L9GcY

Circus performance…..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60tZmr1LPgA

…..will be back after its exhaustive study….

9 Canasya October 25, 2018 at 7:44 pm

Shalan Lal ji:

Congratulations on a difficult job well done. It is an off-beat and thought provoking theme. I admire people who are able to discover in mundane things meaning and pattern obscure to me. Dinesh K Jain ji’s comments in ‘Open House’ on ‘Chhoo lene do’ song from Kajal are examples. One of my friends considers ‘My Fair Lady’ a Marxist movie! (George Bernard Shaw was a known communist sympathizer).

The October Revolution arguably passed India by, leaving it more or less untouched, perhaps because ours was an agrarian (rather than industrial) society undergoing its own nationalist movement under the leadership of Gandhi and others (communists emphasized international over national interests). Perhaps for this reason, songs from Mother India (1957) and Kismet (1943) did not qualify for this post (although Mother India is mentioned as having ‘thick shadow of the Russian revolution’). Here are a few that I hope would qualify:

‘Daulat ne passene ko’ (Chitalkar in Paigham; MD: CR)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMUCYk3QqWI

‘Mehnat kash insaan jaag utha’ (Asha, Rafi in ‘Insaan Jaag Utha’; MD: SDB)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CNlCDHzM1Y

‘Gareebon ka paseena’ (Rafi in ‘Naya Aadmi’; MD: MM)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLV10MGXWo0

10 SSW October 26, 2018 at 7:09 am

Interesting article Ms.Lal. I found some links somewhat tenuous but that is probably because I have not seen most of the older films listed here. Both Boot Polish and Do Bhigha Zamin were inspired in some ways by Italian neo-realism too, both films by de Sica though Do Bigha Zamin as written by Salil Chowdhury was also partly inspired by a Rabindranath Tagore poem. I would also argue that the concept of the Co-operative is much older than Lenin. The first cooperative societies were established in England durimg the Industrial revolution the most successful of which was the Rochdale Society. Socialism in the modern world arose in England. You may have seen the BBC mini series North and South.
Sahir being my favourite Marxist lyricist (in college we used to joke that even Sahir’s lyrics dealing with love had a tinge of Marxism) I find this a great tribute to the worker. Only part of the poem was used in this song. The first two and the two penultimate verses are left out.
But I really like
Ek shahenshah ne daulat ka sahara lekar
Hum gareebon ka udaya hai mazaak,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olSvFW30L3s

Mr.Deshmukh @2 what is a teevra nishad. In Hindustani the common usage is komal and shudh nishaad. In carnatic we have four Shudha Nishada, Kaishiki Nishada, Kakali Nishada and Chyuta Shadja Nishada each note separated by a varying number of cents. By cent I mean a musical interval. For example in Western music the difference between Do and Re (Sa and Ri) is 200 cents.

11 Arunkumar Deshmukh October 26, 2018 at 8:35 am

comment # 10

http://www.ee.iitm.ac.in/uday/misc/shruti.pdf

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shruti_(music)

I am not a Classical music expert. I only translated what the book said.
However, after your comment, I was thinking that this was a statement made by one musician(CR) to another(AB), so there must be some meaning to it.
I searched on Google and I found several references on Teevr Nishad. I give here only two links. I believe every Raga has Ati Komal, Komal, Shudha and Teevra varieties. You know much better. I am a zero in classical music.

12 R Vasudevan October 26, 2018 at 10:07 am

Long and a fine article on a difficult subject. Much research would have been done by Ms. S.Lal and hats off to her. The article gives some idea about some film makers/actors who had “left” thinking or who had leaned
to communism.

13 AK October 26, 2018 at 11:36 am

Arunji,
I am equally zero in classical music, more so before experts like SSW. But adding to what he has said, in common usage Shadaj and Pancham are always invariant (shuddh). Madhyam only has teevra variant (besides shuddh, of course), and the rest Rishabh, Gandhar, Dhaivat and Nishad have komal variants. That makes twelve notes commonly used by Hindustani classical musicians.

I had acquaintance with a music Guruji who often talked about his research. He had discovered 24 shrutis, so he said, on the basis of ancient shastras. Each had a specific name associated with a specific point in our कुंडलिनी, i.e. the vertebra. He said that any person producing the 24 shrutis will reach the state of divinity.

It is clear that in your pdf, the notes slightly above the standard frequency have been given the adjective ‘teevra’.

I am leaving it for the experts.

14 Arunkumar Deshmukh October 26, 2018 at 5:51 pm

AK ji,
I have not understood what you explained. I also do not want to enter into any discussion on Classical music and its details, simply because, I am not qualified for it.
I only replied to comment no.10, because there was a query about Teevra Nishad.
I believe CR knew well what he was talking to his Guru and a composer who was a knowledgeable person.

15 SSW October 26, 2018 at 8:15 pm

Mr. Deshmukh thank you. So that would be the same as the Carnatic system, teevra nishada would be the same as chyuta shadja nishada .

I was able to find an interesting book that discusses the concept of the teevra shruti and more interesting that the regular 12 notes are referred to as swaras.

It is interesting that this incident is supposed to have happened in the chorus, normally in film music equal tempered tuning is used, which means there is no place for a microtonal shruti. Natural temperament shrutis would be out of place in the chorus while it would make an interesting variant in a solo voice or instrument .

The only microtonal chorus I have heard was when I first heard this piece in 1989 on the radio. I rushed out to buy the cassette at once (no record player at that time )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZ4LCejQg8o

Sorry for the digression. But your quote piqued my interest.

16 Ashwin Bhandarkar October 26, 2018 at 11:15 pm

My 2 cents (equivalent to ₹ 1.46 at today’s exchange rate for the US $) on the teevra nishad discussion:

I have come across literature in which it has been stated that except in the case of madhyam, wrt the other four ‘vikrit’ notes, ‘teevra’ is just an alternate term for ‘shuddha’. If my memory serves me right, there is literature in which it is the ‘teevra’ terms that is used for the sharp variants of re,ga, dha and ni and the ‘shuddha’ term is used only for the madhyam. The implicit assumption here, I suppose, is that the scale is tempered and this is borne out by the pdf shared by Arunji in which both the shuddha and teevra shrutis for each of these 4 notes are equated to 1 note on the tempered scale. This, taken along with what SSW has stated in the 3rd para of his comment above, leads me to surmise that by ‘teevra nishad’ Anil Biswas and C.Ramachandra were simply referring the shuddha nishad.

SSW,

Thanks for sharing the link to the Bulgarian chorus. The music is marvellous!

17 Ashwin Bhandarkar October 26, 2018 at 11:27 pm

Here is a link to a site in which it is explicitly stated that for rishab, gandhar, dhaivat and nishad, shuddha=teevra.

http://bharatdiscovery.org/india/शुद्ध_तीव्र_स्वर

18 SSW October 26, 2018 at 11:32 pm

Thank you Ashwin, I was hoping you or Subodh would chime in. You should have contributed 2o cents more as that would have made your shudha nishad teevra enough. 🙂

19 Ashwin Bhandarkar October 26, 2018 at 11:41 pm

An interesting discovery that I made while listening to the song from ‘Um ek Hain’ (1946) cited in this post:

The tune for the segment ‘meri maata ka sapna toot gaya’ is almost the same as the tune for the refrain for ‘Aaja o jaan-e-wafa’ (Lata-Hemant/S.Mohinder/Tanveer Naqvi) from ‘Shirin Farhad’ (1956).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSpvqZMqYwk

20 Ashwin Bhandarkar October 26, 2018 at 11:50 pm

SSW @18

🙂

Here are two more cents (pun intended) as penalty for the missing ‘to’ in front of ‘the shuddha nishad’ in #16.

21 ksbhatia October 27, 2018 at 12:06 am

Ms.Shalan Lal ;

When you mention Shailendra as a communism lyric writer for some songs …..my mind goes to another of his song from Do Bigha Zamin which not only echos but cries of october revolution as well. The second stanza highlights the connected issues…….

Ajab tori duniya……Rafi, chorus…..Salil Da

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9L1XfUOTdo

The similar echos were generated by Sahir in …..Chin O Arab hamara…..in Phir Subha Hogi ……Mukesh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHnKVOezOR4&t=80s

In Shree 420 , Raj Kapoor did gave some message of conversion of Capitalism to Communism and ultimately to Socialism in Jis Desh Mein Ganga Behti Hai . Sunil Dutt did so in Mujhe Jeene Do . But I think It was B R Chopra’s Naya Daur which carried quite a few messages including upgradation of low trodden society . Dilip kumar cancelling her sister’s engagement [ Chand Usmani ] on account of class difference . The equal share of society in growing industrialization remained the main theme of the film .

saathi haath badana…..Rafi, Asha….OPN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExpUfE89trk

22 ksbhatia October 27, 2018 at 1:01 am

SSW ;

Remembering song of six pence as well!!

The Insignia of Mehboob Khan Production depicts a sickle and a hammer …..any indication of him being a communist ? Again like other movies his Mother India carried multiple socio economics messages ……poor becoming poorer being at the mercy of moneylenders ….. resorting to becoming dacoits ……symbol of what went wrong in rural area of india . Incidently , after release of Mother India , a chapter on Green Revolution was being written in the developing countries world over including India . This changed the scenerio in 60s . Rightly Mehboob Khan showed the opening scene with Nargis , as an old respected woman of the village , opening the Gates of the Irrigation Canal ….. again a symbol of growth in waiting and outcome of better social society …..making Bharat …a Krishi Pradhan Desh .

The two outstanding songs that shakes my heart and soul …..

Umaariya ghatti jaye re…..Manna Dey….Naushad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLHx-YhBJkg

Dukh Bhare din beete re bhaiya…..Manna dey, Rafi, Shamshad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmPzpWQ5v_E

23 Manoj October 27, 2018 at 7:12 am

Communism has many plus points but there are many more minus points. There are so many political murders of innocent people, mental slavery and dictatorial rule.
Article above refers Father of our nation as Gandhi. Why not Gandhiji or Mahatma Gandhi? Please give up this type of western mentality. It hurts.

24 Dr Pradeep Kumar Shetty October 27, 2018 at 12:42 pm

MAZDOOR,1983,Hasan Kamal,RDB.
1) Mahinder Kapoor
Hum mehnatkash is duniya se apna hissa maangenge,
Ek bagh nahin,ek khet nahin
Hum saari duniya maangenge.

2) Mahinder Kapoor, ChandraShekhar Gadgil.
Pet mein roti,tan pe kapda mil jaye toh kya,
Roti aur kapda jag mein saare khel jagaye hain,
Roti tum sarkar se maango,
Kapda hum lekar aaye hain.

The iconic ROTI KAPDA AUR MAKAAN song
Mehangai maar gayi would qualify?

25 Dr Pradeep Kumar Shetty October 27, 2018 at 7:58 pm

AADMI AUR INSAAN,1970. Sahir Ludhianvi, Ravi.

1) Jaagega insaan zamana dekhega… Mahinder Kapoor.

2) Vatan ka kya hoga anjaam
Bacha le ae Maula ae Ram….Rafi.

26 Dr Pradeep Kumar Shetty October 27, 2018 at 10:56 pm

HUM PANCH,1981, Anand Bakshi,LP.
Soye insaan jaag uthe
Bankar leharaate Nag uthe…Rafi.

27 ksbhatia October 28, 2018 at 12:58 am

Dr Shetty ;

How about these hidden songs……

Haq mangte hain apne pasine ka….Rafi….Baap Bete[1959]….MM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xteoq4dfIe0

Yeh duniya banaiye kis bereham ne….Lata….Aurat[1951]….SJ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHbQygloiWw

28 Dr Pradeep Kumar Shetty October 28, 2018 at 12:24 pm

ksbhatia ji,
Had heard the BAAP BETE song, but hearing the AURAT song for the first time.
Fit the bill according to me.

29 Shalan Lal October 28, 2018 at 7:05 pm

Ashok Vaishnav @01

Mr Ashok Vaisnav, thank you very much for your erudite comment at the head of the comment section. I hope it will stimulate other to look musical, lyrical, and photographic aspects of the October in the Indian films. October revolution became famous for its posters as well. The poster and big hoardings are also the gift of Russian revolution. Also the way movie camera and film technique developed by the Russian film director and theorist Sergei Mikhailovich Eisenstein affected world film making.

Shalan Lal

30 Shalan Lal October 28, 2018 at 7:11 pm

Arunkumar Deshmukh

Thanks for your quotation and the English translation of the part of “Sukhi Jeevan”.

I shall comeback to it later on.
For the time being I say that I had opportunity in the late seventies to stay in the houses of C.Ramchandra in Bombay and Poona. I also had seen him at his various concerts in London and Birmingham and Bombay. I had plenty of time to talk with him and what I wrote is true on the basis of those conversations.

Indeed AB & C.Ramchandra were very good friends. AB after moving to Delhi many times visited Bombay for various reasons and stayed in Chitalkar House instead of the house of his first wife in the Hindu Colony, Dadar Bombay.

I can further tell you that the book on his name written was not written by C.Ramcahndra himself but by a famous Marathi writer on the events narrated by Ramchandra himself. The Marathi writer did not want to publish his name or to associate with the book openly.

Shalan Lal

31 Shalan Lal October 28, 2018 at 7:14 pm

AK @03

AKji, tons of thanks for brilliantly editing and presenting my “Opus” on the “October Revolution” a very contagious and erudite subject to work to find its influence on the Hindi films.

Shalan Lal

32 Shalan Lal October 28, 2018 at 7:34 pm

Subodh Agrwal @ 04

Subodhji thank you very much for your remarks. Your songs have right roots in the Russian revolution. In Awara the dialogue “ Chor Ka Bachha Chor Hota Hai” was violently tried to prove otherwise by K.N.Singh. This comes from the Russian Novel “Crime and Punishment” a precursor of the Russian Revolution!

Ashwin Bhandarkar @ 05

Thank you for your comment. “Dr. Zhigavo” is a fine example as anti-Russian Revolution.” The writer was put in the prison by the Russian Government and was not allowed to go to Sweden to accept the Nobel Prize.

The American film “Grapes of Wrath” 1940 based on the same named book is more near to the Russian revolution. It has Sergei Mikhailovich Eisenstein’s theory and photographic techniques.

But do come back and make your statement.

Shalan Lal

33 Shalan Lal October 28, 2018 at 7:43 pm

Uma Maheswar Nakka @-06

Thank you very much for your feelings and comments. Do make more comments about the Russian Revolution, Communism in India and other countries, and your own impression about Communism as it still has been influencing many political and social situations. There is still an active a corner like “Naxalite or Naxalwadi” in India. Also make your opinion about the state of Russian Women and Indian Women.

Subodh Agrwal @ -07

Indeed it is a very good song. It tells comically about the corruption in the police force.

ksbhatia @-08

KSBhatia, among the contributors of the SoY posts you have always various points:- among them are of the photography of the films, songs philosophy and other regions which have minutely observed areas of the film culture. You are a very rare breed and you enrich the comment section of each and every post. And you have a bumper list of the films to add the in comments to make them a reference studies for all.

With very fond regards
Shalan La

34 Shalan Lal October 28, 2018 at 7:49 pm

Canasya @ -09

Dear Mr Canasya you are always an erudite commentator on the SoY posts. Your reading about “My Fair Lady” is very correct. Shaw wanted to open the falsity among the so called Royal and allied classes in the European cultures that were idealized by the commons. The film attacks heavily with comic and satirical weapons. Have you seen another film based on Shaw’s play “Doctor’s Dilemma” and Millionaires etc.? Shaw had made a very rich contribution to the English and Hollywood films.

Shalan Lal

35 Shalan Lal October 28, 2018 at 8:09 pm

SSW@10
Dear Sadanandji I very much appreciates your comments always full of studies and scrutiny in them.

With reference to the “Co-op” movement and other social inventions your remarks are right. As Marx studied at the British museum library for long and died in London and his mentor Engels a owner of a money making industry one can say the whole communistic theory and philosophy originated in England.

But they way Lenin put it at the heart of the Government did not happen in England until in the Labour Government of Clement Atlee in England post WWII when they declared their government is a Welfare Government for all the people.

They introduced the most precious “Health Service called National Health service free for all. And that was became the part of Government which recently accepted in all its foundation and execution by the Tory and other political parties.

The NHS is now has influenced the America as well. But that will take a long time to put in practice.

About your reference of Italian influence: Italy was and is the second most communist country in Europe after Soviet Russia.

All the film makers you have mentioned were communist in their core.
I thank you for bringing the issue of the Italian influence.

Satyajit Rai was very much influenced by the Italian films.

With regards
Shalan Lal

36 Shalan Lal October 28, 2018 at 8:12 pm

Vasudevan @ 12

Thank you very much for your appreciation. You have rightly seen through the post.

Shalan Lal

37 SSW October 28, 2018 at 8:33 pm

Ms.Lal, thank you for your comments and it is interesting that you bring the National Health Service into the picture because you reminded me of another connection between Hindi films and the NHS. The movies “Mausam” , “Tere Mere Sapne” and “Kala Pani” were inspired by the works of A J Cronin . And it was “Citadel” on which “Tere Mere Sapne” is based that he used to advocate the establishment of a free public health service. Cronin and Aneurin Bevan worked together in Wales at a hospital that hospital that pioneered the NHS ideas and some credit Cronin’s novels for the Labour party winning the elections at the the end of WWII

38 Shalan Lal October 29, 2018 at 5:03 pm

KSbhatia @21

You are on the right track for all the correct grooves!

ksbhatia @22

Right again Mr Ksbhatia! You as a keen photographer should also mention they way Mother India had used photographic angles and also the oraganisations of the charecters for that purposes. If you have not seen the Sergei Mikhailovich Eisenstein films I shall suggest you do that.. He created a silent film, forever great, called “October: Ten Days That Shook the World” in 1927. Also the “Birth of a Nation” by DW Griffith and his other films of the same period are worth to watch. There is plenty of material for a Cameraman to pick up.

39 Shalan Lal October 29, 2018 at 5:08 pm

Manoj @ 23

I am very sorry if your feelings are hurt about the expression of “father of nation.” I had no intention to do so. However if I were a critique of Gandhi and Gandhism I would have used stronger terms that would have broken your heart.

I believe strongly that “Gandhism” stagnated the progress of Indian minds, until the Congress started presenting the government in a progressive way under “Soniya Gandhi’s leadership.

India from then onwards made tremendous progress.

Many of the decisions of Gandhi are questionable and critiques have right to use the word without making his name reverent. Using the word “Gandhiji” just to worship him is also a mental slavery.

Shalan Lal

40 Dr Pradeep Kumar Shetty October 29, 2018 at 5:40 pm

Shalan Lal ji, SSW ji,
The Citadel, though fictional,arose from A J Cronin’s experience as a young, idealistic doctor practising in the coal mining communities of South Wales Valley. The largely ineffective, corruption ridden Medical care is dissected methodically in the novel. It is said that the voluntary contribution medical association,Tredga Medical Aid Society, where AJC worked for some time, acted like a basic role model for NHS.
In an interview,AJC had said,”I have written in The Citadel,all I feel about the medical practice, it’s injustices, hidebound unscientific stubbornness, humbug… The horrors and inequities I have witnessed… This is not an attack against any individual,but against a system.
It is indeed credible that a work of fiction could lead to such a momentous change in the system.
I have to say,as a practising physician and a movie lover, TERE MERE SAPNE,in spite of the commercial constraints, was a well made movie… the only movie where I liked Vijay Anand as an actor! What music!
In 1938, the book was made into a Hollywood movie starring Robert Donat, Roseline Russell, Ralph Richardson and Rex Harrison.
Nearer home,TMS was remade in Bengali (JIBAN SAIKATE, Soumitra Chatterjee, Aparna Sen, Dilip Roy) and Telugu ( MADHURA SWAPNAM).

41 Shalan Lal October 29, 2018 at 5:50 pm

SSW @ 40

Thanks for opening another wing about the Hospital Films. Even in their copying ideas Indian film makers have been always conscious about deeper aspects of the Humanity.

The idea that Marxism was the only inventor of socialistic government is incorrect. There were continuous thinkers from the ancient times to the October Revolution and Marx was aware of those early thinkers and those early efforts in changing the ideology of governing the people.

Britain was continuously at it until the birth of Labour party. Both French Revolution and American revolution gave push to the idea that Taxes collected by the governments must be spent on the welfare of the people.

But the early failures helped more systematic approaches and where we are now is to the credit to those early efforts.

Presently the EU looks like failing and that is because it became so huge and that is because doing many things without having the effects of passage of time.

The passage of time helps to mature the ideas that would work.

Shalan

42 Sangeeta Gupta October 29, 2018 at 8:20 pm

Interesting, and very different read for me.

43 ksbhatia October 30, 2018 at 12:43 am

Ms. Shalan Lal @38;

Watching life thru the eyes of a cinematographer is a great feeling for me , specially those films whose titles have retired or lost or got dumped and burried by the fast paced generation. All such great movies have left …..many echos for us to hear and …….many left tears and cries to watch . Thanks to many international movie clubs and societies thru which we could watch many outstanding movies of the world ….making us understand the meaning of life thru art.

The clear crystel black and white movies of the 50s were really a treat to watch. Akira Kurosawa and Ingmar Bergman ‘s movies were fav. of mine . The narration of story thru static and dynamic camera moments ………sticking to well controlled directional movements….. topping with excellent editing ….. all well conceived in such great movies. Seven Samurai , The Seventh Seal, The wild strawberries , Silence …..are some of the movies to watch for excellence in content and technical perfections .

In 50s , many cinematographers of Indian Cinema measured upto world standards and won international awards too. Fali Mistry, Dwarka Divecha, Taru Dutt, Radhu Karmakar , V K Murthy , B. Mitra …..are a few to mention for excellent Directors of Photography.

Watch such scenes captured by Cinematographer in a scene and a song from Shree 420 and Boot Polish . See how the camera take a close up of the actors highlighting emotions of the actors vis a vis important dialogue or lyrics .

Jhute makkaroan ka shehar……scene from shree42o….close up @1.13

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5pkCr_vSHs

Raat gayi jab din aata hai…..from Boot Polish…..close up @1.22 onwards

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmkHhmw8V5E

I will move on to watch suggested films including Mother India.

44 AK October 30, 2018 at 1:32 am

Shalan,
After reading your article again and going through comments of the erudite readers several thoughts cross my mind. But before that, thank you for your nice words for me @31. You deserve compliments for your extensive research.

About discussion on ‘Gandhi’, writing his name just like that would not be disrespectful in the context. In some contexts it would be appropriate to use the honorific ‘ji’ or Mahatma. But your reference, until Sonia Gandhi’s Congress started presenting the government in progressive ways, would raise chuckles here. If you believe that in democracy people’s will is reflected through votes, that ‘progressive’ regime was booted out in a most spectacular way. But let us not get into political polemic further.

It is surprising no one has mentioned Naya Daur, which had a very clear socialistic message, and was a superhit too.

You have mentioned communism/socialism in western countries. There were several historical events and new economic thinking that led to the state acquiring greater control over the means of production in western countries too. The Great Depression made people realise that the ‘invisible hand’ of the market had serious imperfections. Keynes ideas revolutionised the economic thinking and led to greater direct government spending in public works to boost demand. In a dramatic way it was said that during economic depression, the governments should be willing to engage people to dig ditches and fill them up.

The next wave was post second world war when European countries were devastated and reconstruction required direct governmental control of many economic activities. That led to a wave of nationalisation in Britain, France and other countries. Coupled with social welfare net Europe, and especially Scandinavia, presented a sharp contrast to the authoritarian regimes of the Soviet bloc in political freedom and economic welfare. The latter regimes had to resort to information blockade, because people would have realised that the ‘humane capitalism’ was the way to go forward.

State monopoly creates its own distortions. The neo-classical economic thoughts, backed by strong political leaders Reagan and Margaret Thatcher, led to the turning of the clock back. UK saw denationalisation of electricity and coal in the 80s. It was a hard political discussion , but Thatcher was willing to bite the bullet by presenting the issue as to whether the coalminers could be allowed to hold the people to ransom. In India, no public personality can afford to present it as ‘workers’ versus ‘people’ issue. In fact any interest group which can mobilise some persons on the streets can hold the people to ransom, with state being a silent spectator.

45 Dr Pradeep Kumar Shetty October 30, 2018 at 9:52 am

AK ji,
ksbhatia ji has touched upon NAYA DAUR and the song, Saathi haath batana.

46 Shalan Lal October 31, 2018 at 3:35 pm

Dr Pradeep Kumar @40
KSbhatia @ 43
AK @ 44

All of you have made very erudite and knowledgeable comments and they needed to be responded with some leisure and good attention.

Presently I am involved in some other activity and that needs full attention.

But I shall come back to you in a day or day after tomorrow.

I am very much obliged to you for making your comments.

Shalan Lal

47 Shalan Lal October 31, 2018 at 3:40 pm

Sangeeta Gupat @ 42

Thanks for your comment. As it is a “different read” for you it will be nice to see your more elaboration.

Further more I like more and more women’ to make comments and make their presence conspicuous.

Thanks again

Shalan

48 Hans November 1, 2018 at 1:55 am

Shalanji
I would agree with some others that you have put a lot of effort in writing the article. I have always found your comments thought provoking and that is applicable to even the comments which appeared to be far-fetched ideas. I also agree with AK and others that everything should not be linked with communism. It appears you have just superfluous knowledge of communism or even Russian conditions. About the Revolution itself you have put up incorrect facts. The Csar Nicholas II was forced to abdicate his throne on 2 March 1917 and was killed in July itself. Communism was a utopian idea which has failed miserably and neither Russia nor China have ever followed it in relation with their dealings with other countries.I agree with Canasya that in India it never took root. But I would not agree with the opinion that the acts of communists were acts of terror. The Russian revolution was not a one day effort. It was a long drawn fight and most of the protests were peaceful. Thousands of revolutionaries were killed over the years.

You have equated the forming of CPI/CPM governments with communism which is not true. Communism cannot coexist with democracy because it is a separate system of governance. CPI compromised communism when they passed the democratic resolution to enable fighting elections by the party. In fact Indian communists have behaved like hypocrites. In Russia the communists were rooting for Russian culture. Prior to their rule German language was the language of the elite and French also had significant role. In India the communists have always demeaned Indian culture.

Regarding films I think the best film which depicted the idea of revolution was the 1985 film Ghulami. This film was removed from theatres in 7th or 8th week when it was having full houses. But this film has no song related to the idea. There was another film Samaj Ko Badal Dalo which came in 1970 with Prikhshit Sahni in his first avtar as Ajay Sahni as hero. This film extensively covered trade union activities and the hero is killed for his acts and his wife could not sustain the miseries of the after life and poisons her children. There is a title song in the film and there is also another song ‘dharti maan ka maan hamara pyara lal nishan’ (lyrics by who else Sahir). I present it here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoaiNElEL3Y

SSW commented that Sahir imbibed his socialist ideas even in love songs and I agree and Sahir is also my favourite lyricist. Look at this song ‘ye raat bahut rangeen sahi’ from Shagoon where the hero is called upon to sing in a charity program for poor children.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xg6VBnEvvrs
And in this song ‘aaj is darja pila do’ from Vaasna he adds suddenly in the last line of the last antara of this essentially a sharabi song – ‘saltanat zulm, khuda vaham, musibat hai samaj – jehan ko aise sula do ke na kuchh yad rahe’.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=271aTR4BYvM

49 Shalan Lal November 1, 2018 at 4:12 pm

Hans @ 48
Thanks for your statement and your views about Communism and communists in India.

In my post I did not express too much of my personal comments about Communism and Russian revolution and related political views.

They had been skilfully taken from various articles that have been appeared since the Russian revolution.

I had accepted that Russian Revolution did not occur out of blue nor Marx’s writings are just an inspired book.

They have their long history.

But you have right to make your argument.

Thanks again for expressing your view.

Shalan Lal

50 Shalan Lal November 1, 2018 at 5:02 pm

AK at the Introduction of this post:
At the introduction of the October Revolution post AK is very understanding and had grasped well the ethos of the “October Evolution”. He says “The political edifice collapsed under its own weight, but it did have a romanticised sway on art, culture and literature for a long time.”

He rightly used very clever words like “Romanticised sway on art, culture and literature.”

But I think the effects of Russian Revolution and the main thrust of communism on the political systems of the world are not going to be washed away.

The reason is that all over the world it is now human beings as their existence is recognised on their own and not just the aids to make rich people richer or religious people to have their way to exploit them, or as the so called” Capitalists” countries and also those who put religion at the heart of the governments who are now coming to the terms of the natural rights of human beings i.e. “Roti, Kapada Makaan” and the universal law and judiciary to replace the old systems or prioritised the universal human rights in their system of the governments. The dictators with endless power have to answer in the courts established by the United Nations.

As AK allowed the “October Revolution” to go for universal discussion I think he has rightly taken a pioneering step to broaden the framework of the blog. And I am in praise of his editorial policy.

Editorial questions:
From time to time AK has within the post asked his questions and doubts and his comments. I like the way he has done. This gives plenty of freedom for the post-writers to express without fear or favour. This style allowed in the Sanskrit religious literatures. The question comes often from the compilers or a character who is listening the oeuvre of the main presentation.

He also aptly added interesting information as he did about the film “Kalpana”.

He has doubted my mention of “Ordinary Gokulwasi storming the Kans Palace”. His doubt is in the following words:
“this predates the October Revolution by several thousand years. Can it be called carrying echoes of October Revolution?–

This is in reference of the Prabhat Film “Gopal Krishna”. My statement is to show the effect of October Revolution on the Indian film makers.

AK’s doubt is about how a story that was two thousand years old could have an influence of 20th century political activity.

The artists in their work always show the effects of their time and some thinking of the period. Whether it has been done deliberately or automatically is for the art critiques to make statements.

When we look at the Sanskrit plays, or the architects and sculptures on the temples or in the caves we try to understand what they are saying and what was their thinking and life style of the period of the artists who created the art work.

This is one way to understand the art of the period! For example in the play Mrichhkatikam of Shudrak apart from the main play it is believed in the story that there was a revolution going on in the story and the king was about to be replaced.

Furthermore when British were ruling with unlimited power, post 1857, people found difficult to express. They took advantage of the myths, religious stories and other forms of expression and expressed their opinions and feelings.

The Marathi plays became very powerful.

One particular play I would like to mention as an example. It was called “Kitchak Vadh” based on the story of Mahabharat when the Pandavas had to spend a year in incognito. They spent where Kitchak was a ruler’s relative and used his unlimited power to try to rape Draupadi.

The dialogues were put in his mouth in a clever way that they were according to the character but in another way they sounded like the arrogant words of Lord Curzon who was going to divide Bengal for his administration purpose but in reality he wanted to control the revolutionaries in Bengal. The play became extremely popular. But eventually it was banned from the performance of it.

During the colonial time Shantaram’s another film was banned because it was titled “Mahatma”. He changed it into “Dharmatma” but yet showed some shadows of the banned political agitator that was so clever that the government’s spies could read them well.

During the French and colonial rule of Vietnam and near around other regions the Javanese Puppet Theatre became very popular which presented traditional stories from Ramayana and Mahabharata which were seen against the rule of the foreigners.

See the following use of Ram story in a Kishore song:

“Palbhar ke liye Muzase Pyar kar Le”

“ Kaajal Ki Resha bani Lachhman Ki Rasha….. Ram mein Rawan Dekha”

I shall come back on AK’s other mentions or doubts or questions.

Shalan Lal

51 AK November 1, 2018 at 5:23 pm

Shalan,
Thanks a lot for your nice words about my role as the moderator. In the very nature of your post different perspectives are inevitable. I limit myself to your observation “But I think….not going to be washed away“. It is interesting that you are saying this when there is a global shift – ‘from Brazil to Berlin’ – towards far right. Doesn’t that make you one of the October-romantics?

52 Dr Pradeep Kumar Shetty November 1, 2018 at 5:24 pm

Hans ji,
GHULAMI,J P Dutta, was a well made movie. The interesting fact about it’s music is the combination of Gulzar_ LP., the only other instance I know is PALKON KI CHAON MEIN,1977,Meraj.

Zehaal e miskein,Makun ba ranjish
Bahal e hizr bechara dil hai..
Sunai deti hai jiski dhadkan,
Tumhara dil ya hamara dil hai ..
Lata Mangeshkar, Shabbir Kumar .. from the former and
Dhakiya dhak laaya, Kishore Kumar.. from the latter are very popular.
Interestingly, the opening lines of
Zehaal e miskein..are from an Amir Khusro work where he had written alternate lines in Persian and Brij bhasha.

53 Shalan Lal November 2, 2018 at 5:12 pm

AK @51

Yes I am “one of the October-romantics.”

I quote a very popular song of Beatle John Lennon

“Imagine”
(from “Imagine: John Lennon” soundtrack)

Imagine there’s no heaven
It’s easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today… Aha-ah…

Imagine there’s no countries
It isn’t hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion, too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace… You…

You may say I’m a dreamer
But I’m not the only one
I hope someday you’ll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world… You…

You may say I’m a dreamer
But I’m not the only one
I hope someday you’ll join us
And the world will live as one

54 Shalan Lal November 2, 2018 at 5:31 pm

Dr. Pradeepkumar @ 40

Dr Pradeepkumar many thanks for mentioning the all time great novel “Citadel” by A.J. Cronin. You have described its value and the diseased NHS at the time.

Since then NHS has come away from those hurdles. NHS now it is Britain’s and world’s real “Crown jewel”; and the last two Tory governments have came to terms with it and are trying to outdo in the race of making it better each time.

But it will present a problem of finance as the boundaries in the intake of the patients putting tons of pressure on it.

As it stands now the principle is to accept “all those who are suffering” and arrive at the reception desk in spite of whatever nationality and state of finance of the patient.

The service is Free to all those come to the doors of the hospital. This put heavy pressure on everything Doctors time, nurses time, auxiliary services, instruments, beds in the hospital etc.

This also makes the service poor.

The funds come from a broad Taxation on all earnings of people who make money by being a worker or being in business person etc.

Plus from the marked grant Governments annual budgets.

As NHS is not a money creating but a money sucking hole and all governments find it difficult to meet the needs of it.

However all governments have become a delicate balance.

Anything happens to NHS means the collapse of the government.

As it has become a shining star there is a growing demand of other governments in the world to have similar standard system in their countries.
In this respect NHS make an universal appeal and attraction to all the people in the world.

What is right for NHS is right for other areas of humanities, e.g. Education, Housing, Food etc. In this way we are near to the Utopia a somewhat broken mirror for the Communistic ideals.

Can the world build a fresh ideology based on the failed “October Revolution leading to wrong kinds of governments in Russia, Arabia, China, Korea and African countries, Latin America, North America etc? I

f there would be this sense then the frightening invasion of the Masses from the poor countries to so called well off countries would stop. This will also stop the migrants of the villagers to the big cities and solve the problems of Shnati-towns culture.

Today the nations of the world are in fluctuations and are walking blindly in the dark that have all kinds of pitfalls.

No country can flourish freely without being facing the realities of the world poverty and exploitation.

Shalan La

55 ksbhatia November 2, 2018 at 11:20 pm

Ms. Shalan Lal @53;

Come September ….nay…..Come October ….and my mind drift to a very far away distance ……Helen in Georgia near Atlanta . A German Town left over by Germans maintained accurately by American in architecture and living there adopting their culture . A replica of a town mistakenly taking it as a german town of Bavaria . October Festival is a joy for every one to watch and spend few days there in a rented wooden cabin homes besides the running creeks oozing out from a near by beautifull falls. The place ….Helen …as it known …..is full of life in this period of time with music , dances on the street and open restaurants serving plenty of Beer of a german kind. Festival’s Parade is another attraction which attracts many tourists .

Every alternative years I visit my daughter’s family in Atlanta …….and we all are regular on visit to this small town for picnic and other sports like Tubing in flowing river . As usual i have made some videos and fotos of the places and watch them on my TV adding some background music .

Here is a small clip of October Festival in Helen , Georgia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48u4LU89nfQ

56 ksbhatia November 2, 2018 at 11:57 pm

Hans ji, AK ji , Shalan ji ;

Watched Hindi movies for so many years and getting entertained thru varying themes….romantic , musical , historical , mythological and some serious …..adding later on subjects like parallel cinema . Some time , some where, some how….a sub subject gets added up like ….rich and poor….raja and praja…..high and low society [ ooncha ya neecha khandan ]…etc.

In all these themes and sub themes our films went for poor friendly options highlighting socialism and shedding capitalism and imperialism ……and these films were very successful too. Mehboob Khan’s Aan and MotherIndia had many more sub themes added to the main theme . One can easily guess Raj Kapoor’s Shree 420 theme as based on communism and socialism as soon as one noticed the lyrics…sir pe lal topi roosie [russian] …..and for wrong doing the capitalist Seth Sona Chand Dharmanand [ played by great actor Nemo] shown door to jail . The last scene carries the symbolic shot of Nargis, Raj singing Lata, Mukesh duet showing the group housing for the poor as an outcome of many ….isms.

And here is the last scene…..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRZK_NXQloY

57 SSW November 3, 2018 at 1:20 am

AK
Perhaps a warning to the “everything looks rosy fans”.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NykVp7qG_Ss

I never understood your equating the rise of the far right with communism. It is only the far right that would say communism is a leftist agenda. In reality the communist Soviet Union was an avid practitioner of unbridled state capitalism. 🙂

58 Hans November 3, 2018 at 1:51 am

Shalanji
Your reply suggests that you have not taken my comments kindly. You once commented that in SOY comments there was too much of yesmanship. It appears you like only praise for your article.
I have only expressed my opinion and also corrected some facts which you have bypassed. None of us was present in Russia at the time of the revolution. So everybody has acquired knowledge from various writings. It is for us to analyse data available as per our understanding and logic. You have admitted you skilfully used the writings. So it would not be wrong to say that whatever you said was your opinion or what you thought correct. I have no problem with that.

Czar Nicholas II was under some sort of house arrest since March to July when he was killed by his Bolshevik guards. It has not been shown by anyone that Communist Party ordered his killing. It was some spontaneous reaction. I would here relate a story told to me by a respected acquaintance of mine. He was officer in the Army and during 1965 war he had 6 POWs under his control when he learned that his young recently married son was killed in action. He fell into a rage and shot dead all six Pak prisoners with his service revolver. Would you call it an act of terror. In my view something like this happened in the case of captive Czar. In July there were huge protests and govt. ordered firing in which hundreds (as per govt sources) were killed. The guards perhaps retaliated in response. If the party wanted to kill them they would have done it earlier and would have avoided unnecessary expenses. So when I said that this was not an act of terror, I had my reasons.

Another example of your taking liberty with facts is in your description of film Achhut. You equate untouchability in India with the difference between haves and havenots in Russia. Untouchability is a social problem and the situation in Russia which is also found commonly elsewhere is called class struggle by communists. There you also mention Kasturba’s practice of untouchability and Gandhi correcting it. Your reply to Sangeetaji shows you have a concern for women. With that mindset you should have checked facts about Gandhi-Kasturba. The story is related in Gandhi’s famous autobiography and naturally it is from his perspective. During his stay in South Africa some of his clerks resided in Gandhi’s house. As per the custom of those times in winter they kept urine pots in the room. Gandhi talks about one low caste hindu converted to Christianity whose urine pot Kasturba was forced to carry out and clean. In his own words Gandhi was not satisfied with her just carrying the pot but he wanted her to do it cheerfully. And on this incident alone he caught her hand and pushed her out of the house. Any amount of explanations by either Gandhi or his apologists cannot cover this treatment. It is fine if we do not get our work done by servants, but how can you force your wife in the 19th century to do such work for your servant. And you say she was practising untouchability. Regarding his stay in bhangiwada, it may be told he never stayed in their houses. He stayed for less than a week in Delhi in a bhangi mandir which was already at the best place and also well kept. Even then before Gandhi’s coming to stay volunteers came and cleaned it themselves and Gandhi food and water brought with him. In fact the residents of the area were annoyed by this misuse of their temple.

In the second and third para of your comment 50 you have again attributed to any good in society or countries to communism. I hope these are your own comments or you would later not say that they are skilfully taken from some writings. If they are your comments then I would like to say a few things if you permit.

59 AK November 3, 2018 at 7:34 am

SSW,
Did I equate the rise of far right to communism? I was referring to the irony of Shalan Lal’s romance for left at the time of rise of the right. Unless you are suggesting that since Duniya gol hai far right and far left converge at a point. In practice they do in intolerance of dissent and the ‘other’, and the Big Brother’s intervention in individual liberty. The present POTUS is a prime example. In our country it is interesting to see Hindu and Muslim fundamentalists being on the same page against some progressive judgments of the Supreme Court on homosexuality, adultery, entry of women in religious places etc.

60 SSW November 3, 2018 at 4:33 pm

AK @40, I don’t see any difference between religious fundamentalists in any religion. They go back to a golden age in stone. 🙂 The POTUS is a not a religious fundamentalist. He just thinks he is God.

61 Shalan Lal November 3, 2018 at 5:50 pm

AK @ 44

AK @ 44
Thanks for you intelligent deliberation that has numerous points. I pick only a few at a time and come for the rest later on.
In the second paragraph you say “But your reference, until Sonia Gandhi’s Congress started presenting the government in progressive ways, would raise chuckles here”
My thinking was based on when “Dr Manmohan Singh” a graduate of the London School of economics was appointed by the then Prime Minister “Narsinha Rao Prime minister and he discarded boldly the grip of Gandhism on the previous successive congress governments and freed the business area and other areas of the governments.
He was the graduate of the “School of Economics” so a first time a right person after C.D.Deshmukh came into the Congress politics. Narsinh Rao had to leave the government however he was a brilliant Prime Minister. Later on Manmohanji became P.M and had opportunity to carry on his reformations and that gave a push to all kinds of economic forces. That also gave full advantage to the first BJP Government to make India shining.

Today in the Western World India as democracy has become a challenge to Europe with her economic progress, though China is considered as real threat but it is not a democracy.

Next you mentioned the magnificent “Keynes ideas “. Yes indeed! Many times Thatcher governments had used them. Unfortunately her still deep belief in the traditional values and attitudes of the Tories, though she achieved some progress her success was seen as fluke and whims of a mad woman and not a logical economic needs but personal iidiosyncrasy.

But there was eventual her down fall as the result of her own attitudes and bulldozing people and arrogance towards the people within and without the party. Today’s Tories would keep themselves miles away from her way of governing and her beliefs of the Tory ideals.

Because they have came to the terms with the idea that if they had to stay in the power they have to use the government’s resources for all people and not just give heavy support to the traditional business people at the cost of the workers and keeping them miles away from the share of the cake. Many of their policies are similar to the policies of the Atlee Government after the WWII.

Presently they had to worry about the opposition leader Jeremy Corbyn who rose to the power as Labour Party opened up their voting to the age of 18 years of youth who were mostly the children of migrants and dissatisfied students who had to pay fees so high that all through their life they would be paying in and staying in debts.
Jeremy had promised that he would make university education free to all. He was openly a communist sympathiser and trade unionist. All his shadow cabinet too are communist sympathisers.

Present Tory Government is in full of trouble on the problem of “Brexit” i.e. to get out of the European Union.

So everything is very fluid in present state.

Your view that the world is moving to the conservatism is on a limping state as there is an upheaval in all the countries in the world. Once Britain would get out of the European Union the EUROPEAN UNION will start eroding because it has become huge and there are only two or three countries within it, that are money making others depend upon them for grants and gifts. So there will be heavy weight on the finance of European Union besides their ideology which mainly based on the original ideas of communism are being put in too quickly and put their practicality extremely difficult.

I shall come back for other points you have raised later on.
Shalan La

62 Manoj November 6, 2018 at 7:08 am

Reference comment # 39

Would prefer to call you Shalanji instead of Shalan and that is our culture.

Thanks for your article in general as many songs are enjoyable.

63 Ahalan Lal November 6, 2018 at 4:50 pm

Manoj @ 62

Happy Diwali to you and your friends and relatives.

It does not matter if you use Indian tradition according to you or Western Tradition as I have been living in the Western culture past forty years.

What is important is to me your ideas and opinions and how you arrived to them.

More and more people nowadays believe that the world is one village and we have no boundaries.

In this context being universal is more modern than being stuck to the small corner of one’s own culture.

Shalan

64 Shalan Lal November 6, 2018 at 4:53 pm

Hansji @ 58

Happy Diwali to you and your family and friends!

Thanks for your further elaborations of your earlier views and some new opinions.
Mr Hansji I am very sad that you felt your views and elaborations have not been well commented by me and as a result you think that I am hard on you. I had no such feeling about your contribution.
You have explained the situation of Tsar’s house arrest and his situation. Well, I think this is added information that serves the comment section.
In my presentation it was not needed to put everything about the hostility occurred to Tzar among the common people and the political agitators, as I was not presenting a detailed history of the situation. The article as it was very long and AK has from his long experience of running a blog dedicated to the Hindi film songs had to trim it to suit the SoY readers in general.
I as a post writer have a right to choose the selections of the events to suit my statement.
So additional information about Tsar in that situation like Gandhi’s awareness and zeal about the correction of the predicament of the “untouchables” in India was and is the right place in your comment section.
You argued that my mention of the word “Terror” is doubtful about the killing of Tsar and his family and you have illustrated your view by giving an example of Indo-Park war of 1965.
My use of the word “Terror” is not just mine but there are many writers and commentators of the “October Revolution” who have used that word in connection of the Tsar and his family..
The word “Terror” is an apt word I think in this context. Any one does something like that without proper court trial military or civil under the universal law of the humanity uses “Terror” as a method to frighten the rest of the people about their policies and the way of dealing in the world, is doing an act of “Terror”.
If your story is true and not just bravado to prove your point then my view is that the officer who used the killings of the war prisoners had committed a wanton act and had created an act of terrorism and stained the Indian Army and the Prime Minister of India at the time.
I hope this stand of mine may satisfy you. I have no further wish to continue this line of dialogue.
Shalan Lal

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