When the media described the change of portfolio of a high-profile minister in the last cabinet reshuffle as downsizing her, she tweeted, Kuchh to log kahenge, logon ka kaam hai kahna. The media makes its living out of saying up things, often with generous doses of spices and garnishing. Celebrities and public personalities learn to live with it. The minister was better off ignoring the barbs, but I have to thank her for giving me an idea for a post.
What is said or not said affects not only the VIPs, but all of us. A major reason for strains in relationships is the breakdown of communication between the partners. A stereotype image of a wife is her complaining to the husband, when your friend comes you can chat up with him for hours, tell me how many sentences you have spoken to me today? There was a charming news item recently about a divorce petition filed by the wife on the ground that her husband had lost interest in her. The judge, who must also have been a trained psychologist, ordered the husband to say to the wife thrice a day, Darling, you are the most beautiful woman in the world; I love you very much. He asked the couple to come back after the husband had perfected it by practicing before a mirror. On the next date, the couple came beaming, and left the court hand-in-hand, with the wife profusely thanking the judge.
That might suggest that not speaking means absence of communication. But at times silence is more eloquent than words. I remember a non-film song of Hemant Kumar (Kitna dukh bhulaya tumne pyari) in which the antara was हम तुम चुप बैठे हों, दिल कहता है किस्से दिल के. A film of powerful silences is Shekhar Kapoor’s Masoom – silences not only of the great actors Naseeruddin Shah and Shabana Azmi, but also of the child Jugal Hansraj who brings tears to your eyes. The greatest moments in Deewar are not its dialogues, great as they are, but the searing silence of Vijay (Amitabh Bachchan). The only person who understands him is the cabaret dancer Anita (Parveen Babi) from a fallen background, because he shares his silence with her with a drink or cigarette, which conveys all the pain bottled inside him – his Ma is weighed down by the image of Mother India, and the cop-brother has been tutored Bhagwad Geeta by AK Hangal and Neetu Singh.
But when the time comes, Vijay is also voluble – he gives it hard to the God in the temple for wreaking so much misery on his mother. You might quibble that in the temple you hardly deliver a long angry monologue, but that has become one of the iconic scenes in cinema.
Thus, to speak, or not to speak is the question. As you have seen, there is no right answer to this fundamental dilemma facing the mankind – you can speak too little or too much, but often it is not what you say, but how you say it that is more important. A most fascinating display of what to say and how to say it is being played out in the American presidential campaign. At the Republican convention, when Ted Cruz called upon the people to vote as per their conscience for the candidate who would uphold the American constitution – a very noble statement on the surface – everyone knew what he was saying – “I loathe Donald Trump.” Cruz and his wife were escorted out of the hall with great difficulty amidst the booing crowd. Politicians face a unique professional dilemma. If they keep their mouth shut, they wouldn’t be politicians; if they open it, they can’t do it without putting their feet into it. Then the media pounces on them, and they have to go into all sorts of contortions – I didn’t mean this, I meant that. I have been quoted out of context. Not everyone is as unapologetic as Donald Trump; he can say with a straight face that Obama and Hillary Clinton are the founders of ISIS and, when asked by the media to clarify, reiterates that this is exactly what he meant.
As a blogger, I have to often deal with this issue. The anonymity provided by the virtual media lets some people lose all sense of proportion – it is not unusual to see people getting abusive or insulting for no reason except that the other person holds a different view. Though music evokes strong emotions, the content of SoY has ensured a kind of self-selection which has brought in people who are highly educated and mature. I have also been lucky that whenever the readers felt that something was not all right and commenting on the site might appear inappropriate, they have chosen to mail me with their very frank, at times brutally frank, views. This shows the highest standards of what to say and how to say.
There is nothing under the sun on which you wouldn’t find a film song. The minister thought that the famous film song conveyed the best what she felt. In budget speeches, we are accustomed to waiting for the film songs the Finance Minister would mention to pep up his speech.
I am presenting some songs on the ‘kahna’ theme. But we have to be careful – the emphasis has to be on the issue of ‘saying’. Since it is a very common verb, it may appear in many situations where the emphasis is on something else. For example, Saawan ke baadlo unse ye ja kaho is a saawan/baadal song to my mind.
1. Kuchh to log kahenge logon ka kaam hai kahna by Kishore Kumar from Amar Prem (1971), lyrics Anand Bakshi, music RD Burman
When a Bengali bhadralok falls in love with a fallen woman, no amount of explanation that the woman is a good soul is going to satisfy the busybodies whose soul entertainment is to peek into other’s affairs. This is the world which maligned Sita, too; what chance the lesser mortals have? I must say the minister chose a most apt song for conveying her feelings. This was the era of the continuous run of Rajesh Khanna’s 15 superhits, Kishore Kumar being the voice of the hero and RD Burman defining the music trend.
2. Kahna hai kahna hai aaj ye tumse pahli baar by Kishore Kumar from Padosan (1968), lyriocs Rajendra Krishna, music RD Burman
But RD Burman gave some great music pre-Rajesh Khanna phase, too. Padosan is a rip-roaring comedy with some outstanding songs. Ek chatur naar, parodied on Ashok Kumar’s song in Jhoola (1941) by Saraswati Devi, has become an all-time classic. Less celebrated is this ‘kahna’ song through which the bumbling buffoon Bhola (Sunil Dutt) conveys his love to Saira Bano. The only problem is that Bhola could not even croak, therefore, the Guru Kishore Kumar, in another superb role, gives playback from behind to rescue his protégé. The cover is blown, but finally love prevails after some ups and downs.
3. Kuchh na kaho kuchh bhi na kaho by Kumar Shanu from 1942 Love Story (1994), lyrics Javed Akhtar, music RD Burman
It seems RD Burman had something about ‘kahna’. The lovers in this retro film, when they are all by themselves in solitude, do not need to say anything to one-another, because time has stood still and at that moment nothing else mattered except the two. RDB gives some superb music in his swan song which was released two years after he had passed away. Kumar Shanu who modelled himself on Kishore Kumar in the beginning of his career, sings it superbly.
कुछ ना कहो, कुछ भी ना कहो
क्या कहना है, क्या सुनना है
मुझको पता है, तुमको पता है
समय का ये पल थम सा गया है
और इस पल में कोई नहीं है
बस एक मैं हूँ, बस एक तुम हो
4. Unko ye shikayat hai ki hum kuchh nahi kahte by Lata Mangeshkar from Adalat (1958), lyrics Rajendra Krishna, music Madan Mohan
Forced into earning her living as a prostitute, as the respectable person she had married secretly had left for higher studies, leaving her pregnant, Nargis’s life is one of unmitigated pain and misery. What can a person in this situation say? Rajendra Krishna has woven beautiful irony – Kuchh kahne pe toofan utha leti hai duniya/ Ab is pe qayamat hai ki hum kuchh nahi kahte (The world raises a storm when I say something; and now they give me hell that I don’t say anything). Madan Mohan, the composer for the classes, creates one of his best ghazals which made Madan Mohan-Lata Mangeshkar as one of the most famous hyphenations in film music.
5. Hum bolega to bologe ki bolta hai by Kishore Kumar from Kasauti (1974), lyrics Verma Malik, music Kalyanji Anandji
We just heard Kuchh kahne pe toofan utha leti hai duniya – an elegant line, composed equally elegantly. How would you say the same thing in Tapori language? Kishore Kumar is man for all seasons, and Pran was a multifaceted talent. Kalyanji-Anandji were among the few Golden Era stalwarts who were able to make a successful transition post-Aradhana. ‘Kahna’ songs need not be serious and philosophical. The Gorkha, Pran, sees all the goings-on from his vantage position. He obviously can’t resist the temptation to reveal all, but has to maintain the façade of keeping quiet. He makes it an extremely enjoyable song.
6. Pyar ki daastan tum suno to kahen by Lata Mangeshkar from Faraar (1965), lyrics Kaifi Azmi, music Hemant Kumar
In the best male solos of 1949, currently under review, the pride of place went to Tu kahe agar main geet sunata jaaun. Pyar ki daastan reverses the order of ‘kahna’ and ‘sunana’. ‘Listening’ is the other side of ‘kahna’. You don’t care for the world (Kya karega sun ke jahan), it is the one for whom the lady cares, needs to listen (Tum suno to kahen). Hemant Kumar’s music, especially for Lata Mangeshkar, was as sweet as his own songs. Kaifi Azmi has penned some his best songs which were composed by Hemant Kumar, such as in Kohra and Anupama.
7. Dil ki kahani kahna to chahe haye ri kismat kah na sake by Lata Mangeshkar from Sagaai (1951), lyrics Rajendra Krishna, music C Ramchandra
This is another shade where the lady has been compelled into circumstances when she is not able to tell her inner feelings. By the early 50s, Lata Mangeshkar had established herself as the defining voice of the leading lady. C Ramchandra was among the top stalwarts whose songs for Lata Mangeshkar acquired a unique identity.
8. Ka se kahun man ki baat, bairi balamwa dukhiya kar gaye by Sudha Malhotra, lyrics Sahir Ludhiyanavi, music N Datta
Here there is no dilemma about saying it; there is only an endearing reproach for the bairi balamwa who seems to have deserted the lady. Raga Kafi gives it a naughty and playful mood. Picturised as a stage dance song, it is being witnessed by two pairs Rajendra Kumar-Nanda and Ashok Kumar-Mala Sinha from different box seats. Their stories would intersect, leading to some high drama. Sahir Ludhiyanavi was not only a rebel poet, he has also written lyrics for all types of songs, including such classical-based songs mirroring traditional bandishes.
9. Kahun kaase main man ki baat by Lata Mangeshkar from Subah Ka Tara (1954), lyrics Noor Lakahnavi, music C Ramchandra
We have seen how a simple point about telling what is inside one’s heart has so many different shades. Here is another where the lady is apparently newly-wed whose husband is away. But the mood is not glum, because marriage gives a security and she knows the absence is temporary. Therefore, she can dance around and tell her man ki baat to his picture and his suit laid neatly on the sofa.
10. Raaz ki baat hai kahen ya na kahen..Nigaahen milaane ko ji chahta hai by Asha Bhosle from Dil Hi To Hai (1963), lyrics Sahir Ludhiyanavi, music Roshan
Nutan does say everything she wants to say in the prelude to the qawwali – Raaz ki baat hai kahen ya na kahen/ Bas gaya hai is dil mein koi kahen ya na kahen – before the start of rhythmic clapping and synchronised dance followed by this wonderful qawwali. The old ustaad, i.e. her music teacher Raj Kapoor in disguise, knows he is the object of her desire, but Pran, who is oblivious of this elaborate ruse played on him, is also stupidly thrilled. This was a superb comedy. Roshan rightly earned fame as the Master of qawwalis in films.
11. Pyar ka fasana bana le dil deewana, kuchh tum kaho kuchh hum kahen by Mukesh from Teesara Kaun (1965), lyrics Anand Bakshi, music RD Burman
We have so far seen asymmetric ‘kahna’ songs where one protagonist is facing dilemma internally or due to external circumstances. But there could be a balanced situation when there is no tension, and each is soliciting the other to say something. This would give rise to a happy duet, nicely picturised on Firoz Khan and Kalpana. I just said, RD Burman seemed to have something about ‘kahna’.
12. Aise mein agar tum aa jate kuchh tum kahte kuchh hum kahte by Suraiya from Balam (1949), lyrics Qamar Jalalabadi, music Husnlal-Bhagatram
But a ‘kahna’ song may be balanced on the surface, but if the lover is away, there is pathos in Kuchh tum kahte kuchh hum kahte. I had missed this song in my overview post on the best songs of 1949. I have to thank our Ashokji for bringing it to my notice when he expanded my survey a great deal on his blog. This should be among the best Suraiya songs, composed by the great masters Husnlal-Bhagatram, despite their familiar orchestration.
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How very interesting, AK. I will freely confess that in all my ‘lists’, published or drafts, I do not have this theme, nor did I even think of it. Hats off! 🙂 That was a very cheeky introduction. I must only think that it was deliberate. After all, Samajhnewaale samajh sakenge, na samjhe, na samjhe woh anaadi hai…
Let me add to your list:
Mujhe kuch kahna hai from Bobby
and
O meri maina, tu maan le mera kahna from Pyar Kiye Jaa
Anu,
Thanks a lot for your appreciation. The theme was gifted to me by the Minister and the Media, you were deprived of it because of living abroad .
Bobby song was also in my mind. Another one that occurred to me was Kah dun tumhen ya chup rahun. But I had too many post-1969 songs. I was looking for older songs.
aaj mujhe kuchh kehna hai AKji
badi hi Unique theme laaye hai aap
par
keh do koi naa kare yahan pyar..
AK jI
Kahne Ko To Bahut Kuchh Hai, Magar
1. Ghame Dil Kis Se Kahoon—Bhool Na Jaana
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ad1ztF9f1ZU
2. Tum Hi Kaho Mera Man Kyun—-Girls School
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20Cj0–OvdI
3. Ye To Kaho Kaun Ho Tum— Akeli Mat Jaiyo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kf8vuDLBBic
4. Kaho Aake Bahar Kare Mera Singaar—-40 Days
And In The Last
5. Apni Kaho Kuchh Meri Suno—Parchhain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4kjw3_cyds
Very nice theme with very nice songs. My compliments.Aaj Mujhe Kuchh Kahna Hai added by Jigneshji is my most favorite.
Yes, a unique – and interesting – theme, presented in your inimitable style.
Only, I thought that after the first obvious song, the next obvious song would be KK’s immortal love duet, Aaj mujhe kuchh kehna hai from Girl Friend, along with Sudha Malhotra for whom Sahir always penned something very special, but it found no place in your list!
AKji,
Kudos for this unique article with much information. You have not only maintained a regular flow of posts, which itself I feel is not an easy job, you have time and again come up with creative posts/ ideas, and once again something out of the box. Thanks once again.
A minor correction. Song no.4 is from the film Adalat and not Anpadh.
I expect a deluge from K S Bhatiaji and others.
I will go through the entire post and may come back again to join the fun.
A couple of songs on this unusual but sing-able theme – and more Rajesh khanna too: “O keh do keh do, oh tum jo keh do, pyaar ka hum tamanna jawaan kar le” and ” Yun hi tum mujh se baat karti ho, ya koyi pyaar ka iraada hai” – both are from Sachha Jhoota.
Another one which just came to my mind, (not a post 60’s one): “Meri baat rahi meri man mein, kuch keh na saki uljhan mean” form one of my favourite films “Sahib Biwi aur Ghulam”. (My favourite scene from this movie being the exquisite one accompanying the song “Piya aiso jiya main samaaaye gayo re”.
AK….This is a wonderful theme and an inspired one.
Apart from the ones already mentioned by others, I can think of Raaz ki baat keh doon to jaane mehfil mein kya ho. This is a wonderful Sonik-Omi composition and if I remember correctly, the movie is Dharma.
Jignesh,
Thanks a lot for your appreciation. You have added one of the best songs on the theme.
Rakeshji,
Thanks a lot for your appreciation and the fabulous songs you have added. I am very fond of the Mukesh-Asha Bhosle duet Kaho aa ke bahaar. But the song which best fits the theme is Apni kaho kuchh meri suno.
Dinesh,
Thanks a lot for your appreciation. Aaj mujhe kuchh kahna hai is a great song. It got crowded out by too many RDB songs which is very uncharacteristic of SoY.
Venkataramanji,
Thanks a lot for your appreciation and the correction. Looking forward to your out of the box comments.
Nasreen,
Meri baat rahi mere man mein is a perfect song on the theme and is absolutely outstanding. Thanks.
Sorry back here too soon, just becase another one came to my mind which fits in with AK’s contention in the introduction to this article that it is not what you say but how you say something that makes all the difference. The song in question is:
“Ek pate ki baat bataaoon sun mere humjoli, sab se achhi, sab se sundar boli prem ki boli”. Of course “prem ki boli” strictly trnaslated probably denotes something else, but in general talking sweetly in my experience, comes naturally to some people, the opposite to others and most of us are somewhere in between 🙂 I wonder if people feel this (talking in a pleasant manner) can be something learned? Of course, barring those times when we lose it – as we all do sometimes. But some people even in anger just manage to sound less bad tempered than others. I don’t know what it is, their voice or maybe just an inner sweetness? Would love to have some examples of who fits in that special category – of course from among our Hindi films. I’d say Farida Jalal is one, so cute even when upset:)
But when I start thinking of it, weren’t they all gorgeous? Sharmila, Rakhee, Hema, Nargis, Waheeda, Nanda….all of them.
Sorry to have gone all off-ttrack here. Time to go, when one talks too much, one starts saying dumb things. And that does relate to the theme in question, so a good place to end this 🙂
A very novel and interesting theme that has, not surprisingly, yielded a plethora of beautiful tunes based on ‘saying’ and ‘ yet, not actually saying’! Notwithstanding the serendipity initiated by Smriti’s tweet, your take off on the tweet to pour out this collection is commendable! Whenever I listen to my large collection of old songs, one duet that I never miss is the haunting composition by Hemant Kumar for “Girl Friend”(1960). : “Aaj mujhe kuch kehana hai”. There are two noteworthy aspects to this song, with moving lyrics penned by Sahir Ludhianvi (who else?), besides of course, its sheer melody, without any fussy instrumental accompaniments : 1. As highlighted by you in your blog, the ‘volumes’ spoken by ‘silence’. 2. The very quaint way in which love was expressed, dignified, heart to heart, sans any fuss and yet, reaching out perfectly. Thank you.
AK ji;
A wonderful post ….a subject as a deviation from the songs of control is great to dig upon . The subject surely is qualitative that needs extensive search to add on to quantity . I am already alarmed by Venkatraman ji @6 and to save myself I am posting few songs and will add more as i upkeep myself with time .
1.Yeh to kaho kaun ho tum…..Mukesh….SJ…..Aashiqe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SM82enA7_eU
2. Aasman se aya farishta…..Rafi, Sharmila….SJ……An evaning in paris
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-J4me6NgNk
3.Kashti ka khamosh safar hai…..Kishore, Sudha Malhotra….Hemant kumar…..Girl friend
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJgVlgvLuAQ
4. Kuchh dil ne kaha…….Lata….Hemant…..Anupama
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69dnqIFfrnE
5. Saba se yeh kahedo…….Asha….MM…Bank Manager
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_BT7uqD91w
6.Jhuk jhuk jaaye…..Geeta dutt….Sardar malik….Abye hayat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQ1uAlwW-3Q
7. O Saba kehna mere dil dar ko…Rafi, …..Salil da…..Kabuliwala
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gj5sPtRpIiA
8. Phir kahin phool khila….Manna Dey….Kanu Roy….Anubhav.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i40o6DEdIy0
9.Mujhe jaan na kaho….Geeta dutt….Kanu Roy……..Anubhav
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zO8hrfGnRWA
10. Jaane kya tune kahi….Geeta Dutt….SDB…..Pyaasa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLGCAGHNTJU
….to be continued….
AK,
I cannot stop myself from repeating what Venkataramanji has said, “You have not only maintained a regular flow of posts, which itself I feel is not an easy job, you have time and again come up with creative posts/ ideas, and once again something out of the box.”
Absolutely amazing!
You did mention Anupama but not the two kehna songs from it . I think Anupama songs are the one of the most appropriate and outstanding Kehana songs.
Once again Kaifi azmi at his best.
Kuchh dil ne kaha Lata
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69dnqIFfrnE
Ya dil ki suno Hemant Kumar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poXBa76JNKk
AK ji,
Once again you have proved that not only you have a wonderful control over English language ,but also you are innovative, creative, inventive,imaginative and many more similar things.
The kind of subjects you dish out simply amazes me. Today’s topic also is a proof of not only what I always say, but what many of our regulars here feel.
In this topic,one of my favourites would be from film Amar-54, an Asha Bhosle number, “Ik baat kahoon mere piya,sun le agar tu”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEVP4KhplXs
Thanks once again for providing us a variety.
-AD
ksbhatiaji,
You beat me to Kuchh dil ne kahan from Anupama
Fun song from Pyar kiya ja.
Shashi Kapoor stlye .
Kahni ki nahin baat magar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwlnasV1NTo
Indeed a very interesting, but equally very difficult to compose a post, subject.
AKji’s detour to a song list variety has added a great flavor to SoY’s offerings….Importantly, he has chosen a fair space to post-69 songs!
Hats off!
The song that comes to my memory is –
Hame Haal-e-dil Kahena Hai…Kahiye – Chaubees Ghante (1958) – Talat, Asha
https://youtu.be/_keCa-OXzsY
Ravi,
Thanks a lot for your appreciation. Raaz ki baat kah dun to jaane mehfil mein kya ho isa very nice song, and a perfect “kahna” song.
What a novelty breaking into vague and unexplored territory this theme of yours AK. It is very abstract but you managed to put life into this. Even after reading it many times, I have not fully grasped the meaning it conveys. Let me make a small effort, which pales before Bhatiaji’s deluge the following song:
Kehta hai dil tum ho mereliye from the film Mem Sahib, 1956,
Lyrics Rajinder Krishan, Music Madan Mohan.
https://youtu.be/WlArB3O5e48
Since my understanding of lyrics is below average, I do not know whether this song will fit here.
Nasreen,
Kabir also said smething like this.
Koel ka ko det hai, kaga ka se let
Meethe bachan sunaye ke sabko man har let.
There is no doubt people who are able to speak sweetly have an advantage. Whether you have to be born like that or you can acquire it is difficult to answer. Acquiring some social graces is a matter of awareness. People who are unnecessarily rude probably lack the capacity to look at themselves from others’ eyes.
Farida Jalal looked naturally cute. So was Jaya Bhaduri. We are judging this by their screen personalities. The “villain” Pran was known to be one of the most likeable personalities.
Mr Rajan,
Thanks a lot for your appreciation. It just makes me think there are interesting themes around us, sometimes we might get epiphany, otherwise they get lost. Even on this theme a large number of outstanding songs are left out which would be added by the readers.
It is remarkable everyone has mentioned Girl Friend song. There is indeed tranquility and quiet about the song: Kashti ka khamosh safar hai, shaam bhi hai tanhaai bhi.
KS Bhatiaji,
Thanks a lot for your appreciation. The songs of Anupama wonderfully fit in the theme. On other songs, as I had said in my post, the emphasis on “kahna” has to be obvious.
AK,
Great theme, and some great songs – both the songs of Anupama mentioned by Mr Bhatia are all time favourites. Here’s a gem: Sahir’s Dil jo na keh saka, wahi raaz-e-dil, Kehne ki raat aayi from Bheegi Raat Has two versions rendered brilliantly by Lata and Rafi separately. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pml1NFGQ4bQ
Mumbaikar8,
Thanks a lot for your very generous praise. Ya dil ki suno is a wonderful song on this theme.
Arunji,
Thanks a lot for your very kind words. I am also spurred by the very high quality of readers. Ik baat kahun mere piya sun le agar tu is a very interesting song. A more sophisticated way of saying this is: Pyar ki daastan tum suno to kahein.
Ashokji,
Thanks a lot for your appreciation. Humein haal-e-dil unse kahna tha, kahiye is one of my great favourites.
DP Rangan,
Thanks a lot for your appreciation. In Kahta hai dil tum ho mere liye, the emphasis is not on “kahna”. You would have seen from my post and the comments, that the song has to be act of “saying”, its dilemmas etc.
Raj,
Thanks a lot for your appreciation. Yes Dil jo na kah saka is a fabulous song and a perfect “kahna” song.
AK,
Here’s one more great song by Asha written by Aziz Kashmiri for Baharen Phir Bhi Aayengi (1966) under the baton of OP Nayyar – Koi kehde kehde kehde zamaane se jake : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpNmhOY33JY
A luminous Tanuja and the dapper Dharmendra make this a visual feast too. The film had 2 more memorable songs: Aap Ki Hasin Rukh pe and Badal Jaaye Agar Maali written by Anjaan and Kaifi Azmi respectively. Interestingly, as many as as 5 lyricists wrote the 6 songs of this film.
Ms. Mumbaikar8, AK ji, Raj ji ;
Thanks for liking the posted songs . In continuation here are few more….hope you will like these gems as well.
11. Kuchh aur zamana kehta hai….my all time fav. by meena kapoor….Anil Biswas…..Choti choti baatein
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoCUt4Qtu9w
12. Mere sapne mein aana re sajna…..Lata….SJ…..Rajhath
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Jeglt57iAo
13. Ehsaan tera hoga mujh per….Lata…..SJ…..Junglee
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ca43nTQUL0
14. Mere piya se koi ja ke kahde…..Lata….MM….Ashiana [1952]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gn0Jovaku3U
15Aye jaane jigar dil mein samane aaja…[ pyar ka paigam sunane aaja]…Mukesh…..Anil Biswas…..Aaram [1951]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLlrUZN46DY
AK ji , the last song is a tester for me wheather the song fits the bill , in the sense i am equating kahena, sunana, paigham as equal meaning words .
A wonderfully innovative & funny post, not that I expect any less from you. Usually I am a silent reader, but your invocation of current US politics leads me to ponder on what various parties are trying to “say”.
I start with “The Donald” who sings this song to explain his statements that have “shocked” people —-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeRDKvfDenk
Even though “The Donald” would like to refer to himself as a joker, and explain that half his utterances are “haqeeqaat” (truth) and half are “fasana” (fable); several Democrats are convinced that they are 100 % “jhoot”.
HRC retaliates with this song, and implores “The Donald” to “say something else”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcKTv22dsfM
Note her skill at turning tables on him, despite an FBI report claiming her to be “extremely careless” in handling her emails.
The Republican Party officials would like “The Donald” to be a regular politician (like HRC) and sing —
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cg8753MS35o
Note that Feroz Khan usually plays a “shoot-from-hip-cowboy”, and the Republicans would like him to change his image to a “sober-chaste-sane loverboy” and woo the US electorate (Sharmila Tagore)
In any case there is no chance of any “Baaton Baaton Mein” between “The Donald” & HRC; leading to either of these songs —
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtpyt61lQhY
OR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJSJz6tXvSY
Still ROFLing on this post 🙂
Raj,
Koi kah de kah de kah de zamaane se ja ke is a great and perfect “kahna” song. Thanks for adding it.
KS Bhatiaji,
Great songs you have added. My first cut would be where “kahna” theme strikes in your face. Kuchh aur zamana kahta hai perfectly fits the bill. #15 does not fit the bill. “Sunana” has to be in tandem with “kahna”.
Samir,
Great to have you back with your characteristic Samirianas. You seem to be completely off blogging.
I have always maintained American public policy can take great inspiration from Bollywood. Same goes for Presidential campaigns. I had Donald Trump in mind when I included Hum bolega to bologe ki bolta hai in the list. Another song which would be a befitting answer to his carping critics who ask him to stop talking like a looney is this:
Pate ki baat kahega kahega jab bhi deewana by Mukesh from Deewana, music Shankar-Jaikishan
http://youtu.be/7Uriy4t9QOo
The Donald can still turn around his campaign if he makes these two songs as his Campaign Anthems in the remaining 80 days to the election.
Hillary is in a fortunate position. Even if she is disliked by everyone, she seems to be unstoppable. On her swearing, she can sing Tu pyar kare ya thukra de, hum to hain tere deewanon mein.
Mr Bhatia,
I omitted to add earlier that the two songs from Anubhav that you had in your first list are so melodiously composed by Kanu Roy – thanks very much for reviving memories.
From your second list, I love the Anil da composed Kuch Aur Zamana kehta hai – Mr Biswas truly is amazing even as late as 1965.
AK, really liked the Kabir quote, ghank you. Thanks also for addressing my quite irrelevant remarks re sweetness. I think it’s quite a job responding to everyone.
Anyway, on this point of sweetness, I thought about it and concluded that most people are at their sweetest when they are younger. With advancing age and life’s stresses, it starts to fade. And ofcourse you are so right about us basing our impressions of actors on what we see on screen. I guess sweetness is also related to our relationships. We interact more sweetly with those we admire. I mean, I’d be all sugar and honey if I was anywhere near Sir David Attenborough who is one of my heroes. Donald T might not get the same reaction 🙂
But I should wind this up as all this has not much to do with your overall theme of “kehnaa”. Then again, it does – from an angle. “Meethi bol” is part of it and there is also a song which goes I think like this: “meethey bol bole, bole paayaliya”.
Mujhe aur kuchh nahi kehnaa hai 🙂
Great post, AKji – you’ve certainly got us all “talking.” 🙂 Since the fun kicked-off with RDB, here’s another delightful conversational number by him.
Suno Kaho Suna Kaha – Aap Ki Kasam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adVYZGbqk7k
Not to be left behind, RDB’s contemporaries, Laxmikant-Pyarelal make their contribution to the genre via this atmospheric song.
Kuch kehta hai yeh sawan – Mera Gaon Mera Desh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oK3E-YXEIXE
However, when it comes to the weather talking to us, I prefer this lovely, placid composition by Madan Mohan.
Kehti hai yeh thandi hawa – Ilzaam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b8NsZLKqyA
Nasreen,
Meethe bol bole is a nice song to end this discussion with. It is difficult to discuss this topic without sounding preachy.
Shalini,
Tanks a lot for your appreciation. The elements talking to us is a nice sub-category.
Mumbaikar8,
Thanks a lot for your very generous praise. Ya dil ki suno is a wonderful song on this theme.
Arunji,
Thanks a lot for your very kind words. I am also spurred by the very high quality of readers. Ik baat kahun mere piya sun le agar tu is a very interesting song. A more sophisticated way of saying this is: Pyar ki daastan tum suno to kahein.
Ashokji,
Thanks a lot for your appreciation. Humein haal-e-dil unse kahna tha, kahiye is one of my great favourites.
DP Rangan,
Thanks a lot for your appreciation. In Kahta hai dil tum ho mere liye, the emphasis is not on “kahna”. You would have seen from my post and the comments, that the song has to be act of “saying”, its dilemmas etc.
AK Ji,
One more excellent post and after Chithhi post, this is, I believe the second post which has communications as the theme.
Enjoyed the songs posted by you and friends, with Rakesh Srivastava Ji and Bhatia Ji posting some excellent songs for the post.
I will concentrate on Rafi solos in the beginning, and will come to others later.
Firstly, the great Shabad recital from Nanak Naam Jahaz Hai composed by S Mohinder
Mittar pyare nu, haal mureedan da kehna
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=F-cr0n6CASA
Now secondly, a CR gem from Safar
Keh ke bhi na aaye tum
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=Hk7t7cRvNdo
Another one composed by Khayyam, who called himself Sharma Ji, at that time, from Parda
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=QI75jR0ND4U
A lesser heard song from Sabzbagh composed by Vinod
Jo kuchh hame kehna hai isharon se kahenge
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=Nlq9hUTYl8E
Some of the popular Rafi songs are next
In continuation
Insaaf ka Mandir hai ye
Bhagwan ka ghar hai
Kehna hai Jo keh de tujhe
Kis baat ka dar hai from Amar composed by Naushad
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=Hd7gYEtxBDw
Ya keh de hum Insaan nahi from Chhaya composed by Salil Chaudhary
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=j5ZAFbV6RjU
Keh do koi Na kare yahan Pyar from Goonj Uthi Shehnai composed by Vasant Desai
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=ztAnH7f8Ygc
Diwana keh ke Aaj mujhe Phir pukariye from Mujrim composed by Ravi
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=eG_KmHgttu8
Mujhe tum se mohabbat hai
Magar mai keh nahi sakta from Bachpan composed by Sardar Malik
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=zjK66aFBqi8
And finally
Tum se kahun ik baat paron se halki halki from Dastak composed by Madanmohan
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=GA-NOI4GUoY
Will be back with some more
ARvinder Sharma ji ;
Good to see you are back with your gems of songs and thanks for posting the Shabad…..Mitr pyare nu….beautiful sung by Rafi sahib over the great composition by S.Mohinder , the great MD of golden period. Hope to hear more from your magical box of gems and jewels .
Well here are more on the theme hoping they fit the bills .
16. Apni kaho ya meri suno….Talat, Lata….CR….Parchaiye
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MKSKgYX5Os
17.Tum chand ke saath chale aao…..Lata….MM….Ashiana
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTYfkSCBIgQ
18.Hum haal e dil sunayenge…..M. Begam…..Salil da…..Madhumati
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49cd1U8Z9zs
19.Hum bekhudi mein tum ko pukare……Rafi….SDB…Kala pani
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gu0PL-x7vOs
20. Kahna ek diwaana teri yaad mein …..Rafi….MM…Laila Majnu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maTEpdQmuJw
21. Nain mile nain huye baware…..Lata, Talat….Anil Biswas….Tarana
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tw_eXsG9fVU
I have posted this beautiful song considering the 4th stanza of the song which is progression of the lyrics as they move on . The 4th stanza goes like ….naino se naina kuch kahe gaye…… I hope to get it thru again on trial .
In continuation with some melodious duets, as my second Rafi post is under moderation
Phir ek baar kaho by Lata and Dwijen Mukherjee from Maya composed by Salil Chaudhary
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=38kk6-HHP8o
Ae Saba in se keh Zara by Rafi and Asha from Alibaba And Forty Thieves composed by SN Tripathi
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=O9n1lecvIdY
Tumhe kaise kahun by Rafi and Lata from Naach Ghar composed by N Dutta
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=uvGgT_54sVs
Ye keh do tumhe hum se kya chahiye by Asha and Surendra Kohli from Gul e Bakawli composed by Hansraj Behi
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=qQoGhHD9Uxc
Ek baar agar Tu keh de by Mukesh and Lata from Malhaar composed by Roshan
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=StiFrkbxorY
Kehta hai mera dil by Mukesh and Asha from Kunwari composed by SN Tripathi
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=xWAWFuoem_c
Aapne chheen liya Dil
Isse kya kehte hain by Rafi and Meena Mangeshkar from Farmaish composed by Husnlal Bhagatram
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=O8OzxZ7FCtQ
Apni tasweer se keh do
Hame dekha na kare by Rafi and Asha from Sabzbagh composed by Vinod
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=w0WzpWIEXcw
Main kise apna kahun by Mukesh and Lata from Ek Thi Rita composed by Jaidev
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=Rh19plZ2w58
Will continue…
Arvinder Sharmaji,
Thanks a lot for your appreciation and this deluge of songs. It is amazing from where and how you discover these songs. I can see PV Sindhu has spurred a healthy competition for Gold between you and KS Bhatiaji.
KS Bhatiaji,
Enjoyed your additions thoroughly. Thanks a lot. Now you have serious competition.
Nice post AK! Baat jab kehne ki nikli Hai, Sahir’s immortal words come to mind – “Hum kehte hain yeh jag apna Hai,
tum kehte hain jhoota sapna Hai,
Hum janam bitaakar jaayenge,
Tum janam gawaakar jaaoge”
This isnt a song recommendation.
Also, “dil jo na keh saka” is by majrooh and not Sahir as mentioned in one of the comments
Karthik,
Thanks a lot for your appreciation.
Interesting theme, and very well handles. The only additional song that came to my mind was ‘Apni kaho, kuchh meri suno’ which has already found mention in comments. A sweet playful song ruined by the lyrics given to Talat – there should be a legal limit to cry-babiness!
I wonder if ‘Bolo bolo kuchh to gori…’ would qualify ‘Ni sultana re’ from Pyar ka Mausam.
This lovely song by Sardar Malik, kya kahen tujhse mohabbat how gayi https://youtu.be/lc5asF96E_M
AKji,
Very interesting and out of the box theme.
Here are some more songs and variants –
These two from one of my favourite albums of seventies by Rajesh Roshan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_D0F_wHsxyU
Na bole tum, na main ne kuchh kaha- BAATON BAATON MEIN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJSJz6tXvSY
Suniye Kahiye – Baton Baton Mein (1979)
Sometimes it is direct as in – kaho na pyaar hai and sometimes difficult to speak as in –
Baat karni mujhe mushkil kabhi aisi to na thi.. (by Bahadur Shah Zafar)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cms-ektlKyc
But nobody said it like Ghalib –
Hui muddat ke Ghalib mar gaya, par yaad aata hai
Woh har baat par kehna, ke yun hota to kya hota…
Subodh,
Thanks a lot for your appreciation. I didn’t expect such disparaging comments about Talat Mahmood from you, for such a nice song. I would not put Ni sultana re in ‘kahna’ theme.
Karthik,
Lovely song by Sardar Malik. Heard for the first time. Thanks a lot.
Siddharth,
The Rajesh Roshan songs fit perfectly. It was very smart of you to think of Baat karni mujhe mushkil kabhi aisi to na thi. This is one of the two Mehdi Hasan ghazals I like most, the other being Gulon mein rang bhare. And you topped it beautifully with Ghalib. Thanks a lot.
AK, Subodh did not make disparaging comments about Talat, he was commenting on the lyrics and their crybabiness.
So the mention of Talat reminded me of a duet with Geeta that I like a lot.
It has a tenuous link to “kehna” it starts with that word, a simple tune by Hansraj Behl with very incisive guitar playing and wonderful singing , the voices glide along with the rhythm.
I find the “rest beats” in the antara enchanting it breaks the flow beautifully …
Sadke tere
dil ko mere…
and
Tu jo kahe
laa doon jee …..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Os2hf8_tGo0
SSW,
Thanks for correcting me. Subodh is indeed talking about lyrics. Apologies, Subodh. Kah rahin hain dhadakane pukar kar is an excellent duet. The first word too has “kahna”. We can accept it.
1. One of my favourite SDB songs: ‘Palkon ke peeche se kya tumne keh daala’ from Talaash
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4xfaSqPTqA
2. The tune for ‘Na bole tum na maine kuch kaha’ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtpyt61lQhY) composed by Rajesh Roshan for ‘Baaton baaton mein’ was a straight lift from a popular tune used for nursery rhymes such as ‘The ants go marching one by one’ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pjw2A3QU8Qg) and ‘The animals went in two by two’ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMJeKjYEqzU) but I learnt from http://www.itwofs.com, a site that calls itself ‘The chronicles of plagiarism in Indian film music’, that the original was from a marching song ‘When Johnny Comes Marching Home Again’ from the days of the American Civil War (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3k8H_9SjoM).
The post is very interesting and has covered many points from the satirical and rather despondent view in the song “Kuchh log To Kahate Hai” and Kishore in his blue mood expresses well.
The commentators also rushed in well to “Mera bhi naam bich mein laga do Chandbhai” and comprehensively and intellectually added their voices and recollections of the songs.
It is very interesting to see how to stimulate the already alert mind with any subject. Most of the contributions tell us so many aspects of this “Kahan, Sunana and Na Kahan and Na Sunana” aspect of human life.
The song of Adalat is very poignant and I feel it cuts the heart when Lata goes up and brings out tears and blood and AK has rightly pointed out by mentioning the line “Kuchh kahne pe toofan utha leti hai duniya/ Ab is pe qayamat hai ki hum kuchh nahi kahte”.
The post brings out many memories of good lyrics, good tunes and great performances in acting and cinematic values often taken for granted.
I only can mention the song from Andaz “Tuu Kahe Agar” and Dilip K’s mesmerizing acting.
“Those were the days my friend,
We thought would never end!”
And we sigh deeply.
Shalan Lal
Shalan Lal,
Very aptly said. It is amazing how a simple word like “kahna” lends itself to so many nuances.
Tu kahe agar probably emphasises that “sunana” is equally important than “kahna”. Singing or saying is worthwhile only if the other party is receptive. Otherwise, it might be भैंस के आगे बीन बजाए. Another one which is indirectly related with this is Rahim’s, हीरा वहाँ न खोलिए जँह खोटी है हाट.
Ms Shalan Lal ji,
When you said “mera bhi naam ….Chandbhai”, it touched a chord of Nostalgia in me. This and the likes of it were sayings we used frequently during our childhood i.e. in the 40s- in Hyderabad state.
Another saying was “beech mein mera chaandbhai”.
It is amazing how some phrases remain in your mind for years and when they are awakened, they bring a deluge of memories.
I thank you from my heart for using that phrase.
-AD
‘So jaanu re jaanu’ is a popular bada khayal in Raga Shankara. The lyrics of the bandish are:
Sthayi: So jaanu re jaanu baalamwa deke tihaari preet ke bachana
Antara: Utara banaawata, bana nahi aawata, kahe deta sab preet ke lachana
Here is a rendering of this bada khayal followed by the equally popular chota khayal ‘Kal na pare’ by the Krishna Hangal:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_nJOuHyNs8
The saints of the Bhakti period usually ended their songs/poems with a couple of pithy lines summing up a philosophical viewpoint or reiterating their adoration of a particular deity in the following manner: “Meera says…”, “Kabir says”, “Tuka says”, etc. A couple of examples:
1. ‘Meera kahe prabhu giridhara naagara’ in Meerabai’s ‘Chalo mana ganga jamuna teer’, rendered melodiously by D.V.Paluskar:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4O4-VBrczDo
2. ‘Naama mhane mazha vitthala saapadala’ in Naamdev’s ‘Teertha vitthala kshetra vitthala’, an abhang that Bhimsen Joshi made his own:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ay8svwxzmrI
3. ‘Kahat kabeera suna bhaai saadho’ in Kabeer’s ‘Nirbhayi nirguna’, rendered by Kumar Gandharva in his inimitable style with vocal support provided by his wife, Vasundhara Komkali:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_buuncAm9Ts
Ashwin,
Thanks a lot for your additions. Kumar Gandharv’s Nirbhay nirgun led me to a new discovery Rahul Deshpande. Terrific singer, one who should carry Kumarji’s legacy more than the family members.
The other day while listening to Vividh Bharati, I came across this song hearing it for the first time. It is a rare duet by well known singers, singing the words of a well known poet,tuned by an unknown MD, from an obscure film ( it fits the topic under discussion):
‘Zara keh do fizaon se’ from the film ‘Gogola’ sung by Talat Mehmood and Mubarak Begum. Lyrics by Balkavi Bairagi. MD: Roy Frank.
I have not heard of the film or the name of the MD. Can the experts shed more light on it?
Bhatiaji and Arvinderji,
Thanks for the wonderful additions. While you compete for the Gold and Silver, let me too join the fun. The attempt may land me with at least a Bronze. Here I go.
1.Kaho Ji Jee Na Lage Bin Tere by Ishwar Lal and Shamim, film Fariyad (1942), lyrics D N Madhok, music Khemchand Prakash
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43EIHVQrrEk
2.Kehta Hai Dil Ye Baar Baar by Nalini Jaywant, film Adaab Arz (1943), lyrics Pt.Indira, music Gyan Dutt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcCbZZM6UNQ
3. Husn Kahata Ja Raha Hai by Shamshad Begum and Khan Mastana, film Humayun (1945), lyrics Arzoo Lakhnavi, music Ghulam Haider
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtNo9X0OXM8
4.Unse hum kuch kahte kahte rah gaye by Lata Mangeshkar, film Dil Ki Basti (1949), lyrics Waheed Qureshi, music Ghulam Mohammad https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk3vAw9uM0I
5.Lo Ji Sun Lo Tumse Kahte Hai by Mukesh and Surinder Kaur, film Sunhere Din (1949), lyrics Shewan Rizvi, music Gyan Dutt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUIswsv0X9w
6.Kisi Se Humne Ye Pucha by Md.Rafi, film Garibi (1949), lyrics Rajinder Kishan, music Bulo C Rani
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcnR7lD6KpM
AKji, I hope the above songs fits your bill.
Bhatia Ji and AK Ji
Many thanks for your kind words of appreciation, and with Bhatia Ji, I have a great bond of mutual affection and admiration, having met him so many times in person. As regards the competition, he is miles ahead of me, and I would love to see him ahead only.
Now I would like to share a great ghazal of Ghalib and Sehgal, which I believe is the best addition for the theme of ‘Kehna’, Kehte’.
Wonder why I didn’t recall it earlier.
Har ek baat pe kehte ho tum
Ke Tu kya hai
Tu hi bata ke ye
Andaaz e Guftgu
Kya hai
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=D5X-oTruhiE
Will be back with some more…
AK @32
Thanks for appreciating the comment. One of the songs from the film Ek Thi Ladaki has somewhat different meaning about “Kuchh Naa Boliye” from the various categories you have presented.
The song is sung by Rafi and Lata in a very lucid tune by Vinod. It is “Ab Haal-e-Dil Yaa Haal-e- Jigar, Kuchh Na Boliye.
Here the joy of finding or discovering love for each other is expressed by “Kuchh Na Boliye” exactly opposite to the meaning of the words.
Suddenly I realized that Lata is very sweeter here than her Barasaat and Andaz films.
Motilala is very suave, debonair and urbane of city man. Jus t visit the the song and enjoying the comic film is wonderful
Shalan La
Arunkumar Deshmukh @ 53
I am glad my phrasing of the words with the idiom meaning every one want s tojoin in when things are easy and good.
I wonder if thephrase has gone out of use?
Your days in “Hyderabad” cmae back, yes indeed the phrase was common in that part. I spend some time there. We had relatives we used to visit. But hose were the horrific days of political unrest inthat part and we had toleave and come back to Bombay. But I like the Urdu of “Hyderabad” and many good food dishes as well.
Thanks for reminding me my days in “Hyderabad”.
Ashwin Bhandarkar @55
Well reminded all those saints and especially “Mira Kahe”. But is not some change of meaning between Mira Kahe and Kabir Kahe, and Nama Kahe or Bole”.
In Urdu also most of the old writers bring in their own names. That puts their seal on their poems.
But it would not be said with “Mira” as many people wrote “Mira’s songs and added “Mira Kahe.”
It is debatable if “Mira ” really exhisted as Rajastani historians do not tell her story. Especially English historian of Rajastan or Rajputana “Todd” who first wrote the history of Rajputs. He did notmention Mira.
Perhaps other people know better now. My knowledge is fifty years old.
Shalan.
Shalan,
Just a minor quibble. Ab haal-e-dil ya haal-e-jigar ends with kuchh na poochhiye. Thus, it does not fit here.
Giriji,
Zara kah o fizaaon se is one of the best Talat duets. Roy Frank seems to have given music at least for one more film, Chor Darwaza (1960). Nothing much is know about him. I am making an intelligent guess, based on his name, that he was a musician in some orchestra. Becoming MD in some films was upgradation in his status, but it comes with attendant risk that he had to get assignment on his own. Remaining a musician was a surer way of getting a regular income, and he might have continued playing some instruments with some MD. This is akin to a dancer becoming a choreographer, or a skilled artisan becoming a contractor. Over to Arunji.
Venkataramanji,
Since you are asking me, I would put #4, 5 absolutely fitting the theme. Others are a stretch. But let me thank you for addition of the songs, especially #1 – reminds me of the songs of Tansen. It is clear Khemchand Prakash already had this tune, and polished it in the voice of KL Saigal and Khursheed the next year. And #5 too is an outstanding song which escaped my notice in the review of 1949.
Giriji, AKji,
From the poster that is available it seems the music for Gogola was by T M Rai and Frank. The film was based on the 1954 Japanese film Gojira (Godzilla). Here is the link to the poster.
http://www.clubdesmonstres.com/best/htm/gogola.htm
Frank may be Frank Fernand the great Goan Jazz musician who assisted SJ and many more MDs. I am not sure. Arunji may be able to provide more information.
BTW AKji,
You did not validate whether the songs posted by me (#58) fits the bill and keeps me in the running for a medal slot?
In continuation
With dear friend Venkataram Ji chipping in as well, the competition seems to be hitting up.
Here’s a bouquet of some vintage songs for the theme.
Papiha re mere piya se kahiyo jaaye by Aroon Kumar and Parul Ghosh from Kismet composed by Anil Biswas
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=FbOmtxeakpI
Angdayi Teri hai bahana
Saaf kehdo hame ki Jana Jana by Manju from Rattan composed by Naushad
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=n4B231Ebe3A
Kaahe jaadu kiya
Mujhko itna Bata
Jadugar baalma by Amirbai Karnataki from Naghma composed by Nashad
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=ARGJ1svdJec
Koi roke usse aur ye keh de
Kuchh apni Nishani deta ja by Amirbai Karnataki from Sindoor composed by Khemchand Prakash
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=QihOscJr1lU
Sawan ke baadlo
Unse ye ja kaho by Amirbai Karnataki and Karan Diwan from Rattan composed by Naushad
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=SVDe-_lOTc0
Kuchh keh Na sake, sung and composed by Amirbai Karnataki from Shahnaaz
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=ixWjdn354yM
Aankhen keh gayien Dil ki baat by SD Batish from Laadli composed by Anil Biswas
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=wHrLrtjXi9A
Will be back with more..
Some songs that came to mind while going through some of the posts here just then which might fit the bill:
1. Maine kaha phoolon se – sung by Lata, film Mili
2. Bolo bolo kuchh toh bolo – Dil deke dekho
3. Keh doon tumhe ya chup rahoon dil mein mere aaj kya hai – (can’t remember the film but think it had Rishi & Neetu, Rafoo Chakkar ??
4. Mere dil mein aaj kya hai, tu kahe toh main bata doon – Daag (Rajesh Khanna)
5. Aaj iss khat mein nayi baat tumhe likhtaa hoon – Rafi non-filmi ghazal
Venkataramanji,
Perhaps you didn’t notice that I have said upfront that #4, 5 fit perfectly, others are a stretch. As for being in the race for medal, you right away deserve a medal for “Fair Play”, because you have fairly asked for the Umpire’s judgment. If you see Arvinder Sharmaji’s list, he also includes Saawan ke baadalo, whereas in the end of the article I have mentioned this song as an example that it would not be treated as a “kahna” song, but a saawan or baadal song. For this infringement I can give him a yellow card, if not a red card. But since all this would be a subjective decision, I would need to set up an Appellate Board consisting of people who don’t have conflict of interest.
All this is quite complicated, so let us make it simple and allow all songs which have the word “kahna” in the mukhada. This becomes transparent and objective. On this criteria you would stand nowhere before our Usain Bolt, i.e. Bhatiaji.
But you do have your medal for “Fair Play” .
Now I’m on a roll, can’t seem to stop them, thought of a couple more :
1. Main ban chidiya ban ke ban ban bolun re – the great Ashok Kumar in Achhut Kanya
2. Bol naadaan dil ….
3. Bol ri katputhli ….
4. Bole re papihara by Vani Jairam
5. Kehdo koyi na kare yahan pyaar (not sure if this has been added already).
6. Kahe jhoom jhoom raat yeh suhani ftom “Love Marriage”.
AK,
Let me take the advantage of Bhatiaji, Sharmaji and Venkataramanji missing this one from Funtoosh.
Dukhi man mere sun mera kehna
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snzR8iW5ogc
One beautiful NFM C H Atma song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCmOuqVs1Hs
Arvinderji
in ur last lap you ran with many vintage songs, by this u have gathered many points (also by Venkataramanji), and now u r ahead of Bhatiaji in this Kehnathlon race !
with only Dukhi Man Mere’s heavy points Mumbaikarji jumps to 3rd place…wow !!
now the latest positions are
1. Arvinder Sharma
2. KSBhatia
3. Mumbaikar8
4. N.Venkataraman 🙂 🙂
Jignesh,
Venkataramanji deserves the bronze. I am happy to be a Deepa Karmakar.
Mumbaikarji
positions may change only if Venkataramanji comes with another master instalment..dekhte hai..
Thank you AK Ji. You are right. Frank might have been an instrumentalist or an arranger who tried his first steps as MD. This song is sweet.
Thank you Venkatramanji. I thought ‘Roy Frank’ was one person! The poster says it is ‘Rai & Frank. I also wondered what Gogola means. You have answered it.
AK ji;
With heaps of vintage songs added by Venkatraman ji and sharma ji , I stand no where in their comparison . The dig out songs really shows powerful batting . If one is playing googly and mastering it, the other one is facing doosra and trying desperately to give a solid match.
I think we all need to make up for the medals that our worthy players could not get at the olympics inspite of their best efforts . But I salute the show put up by woman power of our team. Watching their games live was a great experience . With Ms. Mumbaikar 8 in the race the battle has already been lost half way.
Mumbaikar8;
The C H Atma song …..kahne ko to kuch…..is a beautiful song which was also in my mind . Now you beat me here in selecting it earlier .
I have a few more to add to my listing , hope every one enjoys.
22. Baat niklegi to door talak jaayegi…..Jagjit Singh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=448K_sTZZ9Q
23.Har ek baat pe kahete kya ho….Jagjit Singh….Mirza Ghalib [ Gulzar]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DinEYZvLuxk
24.Meine kaha tumse….Lata, Mukesh…Hemant Kumar…Maa Beta
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82WA4Uqes3Q
25.Mohabaat jisko kahte hain….Lata, Hemant…Hemant…Maa Beta
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DA3vcfc1lU
26.Itna toh kehdo humse …Lata, Hemant….KA…..Saheli
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9ulFrR40Wk
27.Saath ho tum aur raat jawan…..Mukesh, Lata…Kanch ki guddiya…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJuU9cl8iZY
28.Kehdo kehdo jahaan se yeh kehdo….Rafi, suman…April fool….SJ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5viaydmtFs
29.Kuchh bhi na kahha…..Prem Kahani….Noorjahan….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PB_320ubUig
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiN2kpMgVto%5B Pak version]
30. Pal pal dil ke paas…..Kishore…..Black Mail….KA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viKdF7sp_cY
31. main kya janu kya jadoo hai…jab nain mile nainoan ne kaha…..K.L.Saigal….Zindagi [1940]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJlHdQlw9y0
……to be continued….
N Venkataraman ji Ref No comment No 66
Roy- Frank who gave music to the only film Gogola-66 were a pair of highly unmatching people. While frank was from Music industry, Mukund Rai Trivedi ( Roy) was from a Mine owner family of Balaghat,MP having a passion for music.
Roy-Frank…Md of film Gogola-66 was not one person. It was a jodi of Mukund Rai Trivedi( Roy) and Frank Fernando,an assistant to kalyan ji – Anand ji and few others. They gave music to only one film-Gogola. Mukund Roy returned to family business of Mines in Balaghat,M.P. and Frank became an assistant again.
Frank Fernando worked with Anil Biswas, Kishore Kumar, Roshan, C Ramchandra
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Giri ji/ N Venkatraman ji,
Here is the link for this song from Gogola-66.
In the comments after the song, you will find Story of the film given by me and many other informative comments on the film and the MD.
https://atulsongaday.me/2011/10/22/zara-keh-do-fizaaon-se/
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AKji,
Pardon me Sir, I missed your comment (#65). I wish to Thank you for allowing my entries and the fair play medal award. But I would like to compete for the bronze to the best of my ability. Gold and silver are beyond reach.
In your initial edict, you cautioned us that the emphasis has to be on the issue of ‘saying’. The emphasis on “Kahna” has to be obvious. But you had a rethinking and decided to allow songs which have the word “kahna” in the mukhada.Thanks for this gesture Sir. In your role as the Chief Referee / adjudicator, I would like to seek one more clarification. Since you have included the song Hum bolega to bologe ki bolta hai, would you allow the songs with words the bolna, sunana etc. in the mukhda also. Would be looking forward to your decision.
Arunji,
Thanks for the information and the link. We are fortunate to have you among us for instant reference. So my hunch was right. Frank was Frank Fernand/Fernando/Fernandes. I have read about him in Naresh Fernandes’s book on Jazz. Thanks once again Arunji.
Bhatiaji, Arvinderji, Nasreenji and others
Enjoyed the songs posted, some of them were excellent. Thanks everybody.
Jignesh,
After the latest round of this Kehnathlon race (there is no limit to the number of rounds), Bhatiaji and Arvinderji are running neck to neck and we may expect a photo-finish. If our Chief Referee permits the use of the verbs bolna, sunana etc., I feel, Bhatiaji is marginally ahead. You overlooked Nasreenji, who has silently positioned herself in the third position, ahead of Mumbaikarji, Rakeshji, Samirji and yours truly.
Mumbaikarji,
Thank you for endorsing my view. I also appreciate your generosity of spirit for conceding the bronze. But that doesn’t help, because Nasreenji is way ahead and if Rakeshji, Samirji and you decide to step up the pace, it is going to be tough and interesting. Please be in the race, we would like you to be with us till the finishing line! That would enhance the spirit and joy of participation.
Venkataramanji,
I wish every sportsman was like you. Bolna has to be allowed as it is a synonym of Kahna. Sunana will be admissible only if it comes in tandem with kahna. Jignesh is doing a tremendous job as an Umpire. I hope he has seen the Rules of the Game, and would do the necessary corrections.
Jignesh,
Thanks a lot for your volunteering to do the onerous task of judging the contest.
In continuation………..
7. Mann Murakh Kehna Maan by K C Dey, film Meenakshi (1942), lyrics Pt.Bhushan, music Pankaj Mullick
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xUNEhvr_QU
8. Ab Mujhe Aapki Tasvir Se Kuch Kehna Hai by Vinod (!!?!!), film Khamosh Nigahen (1946), lyric Aziz Kashmiri, music Vinod
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1nUewc1nZw
The uploader of this songs says the singer is Vinod. Needs confirmation.
9. Abb Kaun Hai Mera Kaho by Surendranath, film Anmol Ghadi (1946), lyrics Tanvir Naqvi, music Nushad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMnBrLpvT4o
10. Suno Meri Sarkar Jawani Kya Kehti Hai by Shamshad Begum and Zohrabai Ambalewali, film Mirza Sahiban (1947), lyrics Aziz Kashmiri, music Pt. Amarnath-Husnlal-Bhagatram
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VNMYo2VNAs
11. Kahe jiya dole ho kaha nahi jaye by Uma Devi, film Anokhi Ada (1948), lyrics Shakeel Badayuni, music Naushad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItzNu2hquaU
12. Mai kaise kah du tumse apne dil ki baate by Amirbai Karnataki and Md.Rafi, film Jeevan Saathi (1949), lyrics Hamid Khumar (?), music S Mohinder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-IaLO4sKOA
Arviderji posted the song Aankhen keh gayien Dil ki baat from Laadli (1949). Here I add one more song from this film
13. Kaise kah du bajariya ke bich ye to kano me kahne wali baat hai by Lata Mangeshkar, film Laadli (1949), lyrics Nazim Panipati, music Anil Biswas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDMgbpe48co
Am I on a roll now?
Venkataramanji (posts 83 & 84)
I should start with a Thank You. I did not even think of myself as one of the contenders (among obvious experts), leave alone being somewhere in the front 🙂 That is certainly a bit of a surprise :).
But now that I am there, the only thing to do is plod on….esp. when songs just keep planting themselves in my head. Here is one from “Om Shanti Om”.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbjUBkgT98U
And another one: Kuch na kano (Love Story)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTBCwK9g7xY
Venkataramanji,
I am being honest and not generous. I stand no chance of medal, now Nasreen being way ahead and Rakesh and Samir in the race I lose my chance of forth place too:(
I should thank Jignesh for his generosity towards me. He was carried away by his favorite dukhi man mere.
Nasreen in your excitement you missed that Kuch na kahon is there in AK’s original list:)
AK,
Ghalib has said it all without using either kahna aur bolna when he says
या रब वह न समझें है न समझेंगे मेरी बात
दे और दिल उनको जो न दे मुझको ज़बाँ और
Mumbaikar8 (post 88)
Like you, I am being honest too when I say that I have no idea how I am way ahead – really confused. Is this being calculated on the number of songs we are thinking of ? Because even though I have not counted everyone’s songs (the honourable judges being best placed to do this:), I didn’t feel that I had mentioned that many songs?
Thanks also for pointing out my mistake in duplicating “Kuch na kaho”. Sincere apologies! You are right that I overlooked the original post, was just quickly scanning everyone else’s posts to see if I was duplicating. Just shows I’m not that great a player after all 🙂
Time to polish up my game 🙂 Otherwise Mumbaikar you may yet win – I would cheer anyway, womenpower after all.
Arun Ji @78&79,
Thank you for further information on Roy-Frank.
Mumbaikar8,
This also has
कहते हैं कि गा़लिब का अन्दाज़-ए-बयां और
which is admissible as per Bhatiaji’s entries.
Dear AKji
i cant say it’s my pleasure..
i was making some fun out of this and u took it seriously 🙂 u put a thorny crown of fulltime umpireship on my head !! 🙂 🙂 feeling like Raju guide 🙁 🙁
OK, if u have decided for me to go on as an umpire
i want to display the rules of this particular race.
Kehnathlon Rules
1.
This contest’s Primal word is “KEHNA”.other forms of KEHNA….like KAHA, KAHI, KEH DO,KEHNA, KEHTA/TI, KAHO, KAHU etc are allowed equally.
2.
Those songs will be discounted in which first person enforces to other to tell or say something without using KEHNA group words.e.g. “Bol gori bol tera kaun piya” will not be counted but Yeh to KAHO kaun ho tum will be accepted.
3.
Maximum score for a song (fresh entry) is 10.
A performer can cover maximun points if he/she presents a song from the time frame 1902-1971, since this arena is closely related with a certain time frame.
(hence, filmy-non filmy both are allowed)
a song from 1972-1980 will score a maximum 8.
a song from post 1980 era will score maximum of 6.
4.
Points will be reduced further to half of the maximum if the selected song is having variants of “KEHNA”..e.g. Bolna, Sunana.
e.g. “sunaaun kisko afsana” will score mere 5 points.
5.
Repeats have no value. Will score only 0.
6.
Produnova Vault song.
This is a special song which is iconic, highly classic, touches every heart.
generally we give maximum 10 points for any valid song, but Produnova vault song is an exception..any player can score 20 points by presenting such song.
{ until now we have 3 such songs here..1. Aaj mujhe kuchh kehna hai (Girl friend) 2. Kuchh dil ne kahaa (Anupama) and lastly 3. Dukhi man mere (Funtoosh). }
7. All entries will be accepted only until Mr.AK bring out a new serpent from his basket.
8. All disputes subject to the jurisdiction of SoY family court.
Only the chief justice Mr.AK holds the powers to alter these rules.
Jignesh,
This is a complete codification. Thanks a lot. One could only add that “kahna” or its other eligible variants have to figure in the mukhada, i.e. the first two lines of the song. If one has to use a microscope to locate it, it would be disallowed.
A warning to the performers of this contest
plz dont decide yourself who is ahead and behind, while running, it is the task of jury. Do concentrate only on own presentation. Point tally will be revealed later. Thanks for cooperating.
OK, Akji
I missed this, thanx for reminding.
the Kehna and it’s variants must be in MUKHDA.
Venkatraman ji ;
Thanks once again for further adding your vintage songs. Some of them are new to me and have enjoyed listening to them .
Jignesh Katodia
Thank you, your honour for listing out the rules and regulations . I think we have to be careful posting songs as they will be subjective to tight scrutiny .
I will continue with my listing and posting of songs related to the theme as under :
32.Dekhte hi tujhe mere dil ne kaha….MK…Parivar…..KA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZIqYfjwvYM
33.Ek baat kahoon….Mukesh, MK, Suman….Datta Ram….Shriman Satyawadi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pabyhom52as
34. Chodd do aanchal….Kishore, Asha….SDB…Paying Guest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuMgYRG3vPU
35. Pyar hua ekrar hua hai….Lata, Manna Dey…SJ….Shri 420
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y01uvU0UAoU
36. Yeh raatein yeh mausam nadi ka kinara…..Kishore, Asha……Ravi….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4np5V2wTXwE
37.Ek din bik jaayega……Mukesh….RDB…..Dharam Karam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGYjHQbV1KE
…..to be continued….
I am coming after a lot of time. There were some personal reasons, which are known to Sharmaji and AK. I dont want to say anything, because everything has already been said in praise of the write up which I could have said and also about the code for evaluation of the contributions. I fully agree with the code that every variant of kahna should be included and that should be in mukhda.
As all my co-contributors Sharmaji, Bhatiaji, Venkatramanji and Mumbaikar8, who were very active once, are active in this thread, this is the right time to enter. There is also an added advantage of a medal hope. Though many of my favourites have been presented by the four named above and whose likings match with me to a large extent, I still have a long list. So I am giving the list here with no links. Later I may give links of some songs. Sorry for the inconvenience, which those interested in listening these songs, would have in searching the links. I have taken care not to repeat the song posted by my other friends, but if it happens inadvertantly, I apologise in advance. Late entries are perhaps not barred from the medal race. So here is the list. Hope to add some more.
1. is tarah toda mera dil ….. ye to kah jate – asha – shehnai
2. koi kahde zamane se jake – asha – baharen phir bhi aayengi
3. yun hasaraton ke daag … dil se dil ki baat kahi aur ro liye – lata – adalat
4. ramchandra kah gaye siya se – mahendra – gopi
5. wo paas rahen ….. kya pyar isi ko kahte hain – suraiyya – badi bahan
6. main kahdoon tumko chor – suraiyya, rafi – sanam
7. mera gadha gadhon ka leader, kahta hai ye dilli jakar – rafi – meherbaan
8. kahte hain pyar kisko panchhi – chitalkar – baarish
9. wo na aayenge palat kar unhen lakh hum bulayen, meri hasaraton se kehdo ke ye khab bhool jayen – mubarak – devdas
10. ye duniya wale….. ye baat kisi se na kahna – asha, kishore – mahal
11. sach kahati hai duniya ishaq pe jor nahin – lata – IPZN
12. kahta hai joker sara zamana – mukesh – MNJ
13. chehre pe giri zulfen kahdo to hata doon – rafi – suraj
14. sharm aati hai magar aaj ye kahna hoga – lata – padosan
15. log kahte hain ki hum tum se kinara karlen – rafi – bahu begam
16. mere dil men hai ik baat kahdo to bhala – manna, lata – post box 999
17. tujhe sooraj kahun ya chanda – manna – ek phool do mali
18. chup ho aaj kaho kya hai baat – kishore – 36 ghante
19. bina sifarish mile naukri bin rishwat ho kaam, isiko anhonee kahte hai isika kaljug naam…bacha le ae maula ae raam – rafi – aadmi aur insaan
20. bura mat suno bura mat dekho bura mat kaho – rafi – ASJK
21. suno sajana papihe ne kaha sabse pukar ke – lata – ASJK
22. duniya men nahin koi yaar wafadaar zamana sach kehta hai – lata, rafi – amber
23. hai isi men pyar ki aabroo wo jafa karen main wafa karoon, jo wafa bhi kaam na aa sake to wohi kahen main kya karun – lata – anpadh
24. meri jaan mujhe jaan na kaho – geeta – anubhav
25. badtameej kaho ya kaho – rafi – badtameej
26. qaid men hai bulbul saiyyad muskuraye, kaha bhi na jaye – lata – bedard zamana kya jane
27. zara najron se kahdoji nishana – hemant – bees saal baad
28. dharti kahe pukar ke – manna – do bigha zameen
29. iktara bole sun sun kya kahe ye tumse – mahendra – yaadgaar
30. tim tim karte tare ye kahte hai saare – lata – CKRK
31. maine aur kya kiya balam yahi to kah diya – asha, mahendra – daadi maa
32. tu kan hai mera kahde balam – lata – deedar
33. kahne wale sach kah gaye hain – rafi, chitalkar – nirala
34. tu mere pyar ka phool ya koi bhool hai kah nahin sakti – lata – DKP
35. hum tere pyar men sara aalam kho baithe, tum kahte ho ke – lata – DEM
36. yahan koi nahin tera mere siwa kahti hai jhoomte – rafi – dil ek mandir
37. gusse men jo nikhra hai us husn ka kya kehana – mukesh – DHTH
38. ye raten ye mausam nadi ka kinara ye chanchal hawa, kaha do dilon ne – asha, kishore – dilli ka thug
39. ye dil hai muhabbat ka pyasa is dil ka tadapna kya kahiye – mukesh – dil ne phir yaad kiya
40. jane wafa jane jahan jane tamanna kahoon – rafi, lata – DTD
41. diwana mujhko log kahen – mukesh – dewana
42. pate ki baat kahega – mukesh – dewana
43. kya kahne masha allah najre teer – rafi, suman – ji chahta hai
44. titli ude ud jo chali phool ne kaha – sharada – suraj
45. kah gaye father ibraheem – manna – izzat
46. hamaar kaha mano rajaji – asha, usha – dulhan ek raat ki
47. kuchh kahen to khafa – rafi – ek shriman ek shrimati
48. us paar is deewar ke jo rahte hain, koi kehde unse jake – rafi – saiyyan
49. bin dekhe aur bin pehchane tum pe hum qurbaan, muhabbat isko kahte hain – rafi – jab pyar kisi se hota hai
50.dil jo bhi kahega manenge – mukesh – dil hi to hai
51. dil leke chhupne wale tu hai kahan bata de – rafi, lata – paras
52. duniya ek kahani re bhaiya, tumne kahdi – rafi – afsana
53. duniya ne mujhko hai samjha nakara, nalayak-2 kahke – rafi – nalayak
54. hum tum jise kahta hai shadi – rafi – kagaz ke phool
55. hamen tumse muhabbat hai magar hum hah nahi sakte – asha – aurat(67)
56. jo ek baar kahdo – rafi – pooja
57. kaise kahoon jee ke bain piya bin – kl sehgal – devdaas (1935)
58. koi aaya dhadkan kahti hai – asha – lajwanti
59. man re tu hi bata kya gaaun, kahdoon apne dil ke – lata – humrahi
60. na mano to koi shikayat nahin, magar ye na kahna muhabbat nahin – suman, rafi – ustad 420
61. wo saadgi kahen ise deewangi kahen – rafi – shama
62. vaishnavjan to tene kahiye – manna – narsi bhagat
63. wo din kidhar gaye kaho – suraiyya – singaar
64. chaman ke phool bhi tumko gulab kahte hain – rafi, lata – shikari
65. ek tha gul aur ek thi bulbul, ….mere nana kahte the – rafi – JJPK
66. hum bhi agar bachche hote …. aur duniya kahti happy birthday to you – rafi, asha, manna – door ki awaaj
67. jo tumko ho pasand wohi baat – mukesh – safar
68. maine poochha chand se …. chand ne kaha – rafi – abdullah
Now who could match up to Hans-ji’s list. I think some of us (also due to the new stringent and quite strict sounding but perfectly just rules), have to gracefully resign. I’m pulling out, as I also have time constraints, being a busy mum and and can’t afford to participate in competitions.
Good luck to all of you, it will be interesting to see the final results. (Can there by an indication of when the finish line is?)
Regards
@ Nasreenji
Dont give up. Enjoy and Carry on..this is not Olympics 🙂 🙂
I have indicated final date in rule no. 7
very happy to see Hansji here
with a giant leap, from out of nowhere he is now among the leading players of this contest..ha ha ha
Hansji
we missed to make a rule abt Late Entries and a rule abt how Bigger should be ??? 🙂 🙂
so, your entry is a Valid one…go on
Hans,
Welcome back. This is one giant leap. The competition heats up.
Wow!! That’s a new benchmark set by Hansji.
Let me add few more- (I hope they are not repeated)
1.Kaise kahen hum pyaar ne humko – Sharmilee (1971)
2.Aap kahen aur hum na aayen -Des Pardes (1978)
3.Aansoo bhari hai ye jeevan ki raahein, koi unse kehde – Parvarish (1958)
4.Zara sun lo hum apne pyaar ka afsana kehte hain – Bazaar (1949)
5. Kaate nahi kat te …..lo aaj main kehta hoon – Mr.India(1987)
6. Log kehte hain main sharaabi hoon – Sharaabi(1984)
7. Angrezi mein kehte hain…- Khuddar (1982)
8. Papa kehte hain- Qayamat se qayamat tak (1988)
9. Ik baat kahoon gar mano tum – Golmaal (1979)
10. Soch rahi thi kahoon na kahoon – Ek phool char kaante (1960)
11. Kehna hi kya – Bombay (1995)
12. Sar par topi lal haath mein…o tera kya kehna -Ttumsa nahin dekha (1957)
13. Jaane kahan gaye wo din kehte the teri yaad mein – Mera NaamJoker (1970)
14. Keh rahi hai dhadkane pukar kar – Lal Pari (1954)
Now few ghazals –
15. Dil cheez kya hai…bas ek baar mera kaha maan leejiye – Umrao Jaan (1981)
16. Mana teri nazar mein…kaise kahen ke tere talabgaar hum nahin – Ahista Ahista (1981)
17.Kaun kehta hai mohabbat ki zubaan hoti hai – Jagjit-Chitra Singh
18.Agar hum kahein aur woh muskura de -Jagjit-Chitra Singh
19. Kal chaudvin ki raat thi ..kuch ne kaha ye chaand hai kuch ne kaha chehra tera-Jagjit Singh
20. Koi ye kaise bataye ki woh tanhaa kyun hai – Jagjit Singh
21. Wo chup rahen to mere dil ke daag jalte hain jo baat karle to bujhte chirag jalte hain – Jahan Ara (1964)
22. Unko ye shiqayat hai ki hum kuch nahin kehte – Adalat (1958)
Now my favourite –
23. Koi ye kehde gulshan gulshan – Begum Akhtar
All the best Jignesh :-).
So much has happened within less than 24 hours. After Nasreenji withdrawing, I thought I have a fair chance. But Hansji and Siddharthji have made a grand entry with huge performances. Even Bhatiaji and Arvinderji cannot rest on their laurels and be assured of the top two slots. Well I remain satisfied with the fair play award, which was prematurely given to me by AKji. In keeping with the spirit of participation I would try to be with you till the finish.
Hansji it is indeed a great pleasure to have you back among us. Hope everything is fine with you. My best wishes.
Apni apni sabne keh di
Lekin hum chupchap rahe
I wonder if Rajendra Kumar had taken a leaf from Hans Ji, Sangam would have been a different story.
Now the competition will be surely something different, Venkataram Ji and I will have to dig all our resources.
And this will be no easy task for our judges as well.
Will be coming up with more ammo
Sorry for the typo error Venkataraman Ji
in continuation………
14. Mann Ki Baatiyan Ka Re Bolun by Kanan Devi, film Maa (1936), lyrics B N Gupta, music S P Rane
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3PXZDBGJHA
15. Jaa Ri Sakhi Saajan Se Kah De by Surendra and Maya Banerjee, film Dynamite (1939), lyrics Pt. Indira, music Anil Biswas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0FNppVCDYo
16. Maine Kaha Babu Ji Itna Bataoge by Lata Mangeshkar and Md.Rafi, film Chhoti Bhabhi (1950), lyrics Qamar Jalalabadi, music Husnlal-Bhagatram
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgTSZrBhNKY
17. Suno Buzurgo Ka Ye Kehna by Ram Kamlani, film Meena bazaar (1950), lyrics Qamar Jalalabadi, music Husnlal-Bhagatram
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=le1ykgaIMJ4
18. Dil jawani ke nashe se chur hai kaun kahta hai ke dilli dur hai by Md.Rafi, film Birha Ki Raat (1950), lyrics Sarshar Sailani, music Husnlal-Bhagatram
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QRpiE_rJM8
19. Mujhe Dard De Ke Ye Kah Diya by Shamshad Begum, film Pyar ka Manzil (1950), lyrics Shewan Rizwi, music Husnlal Bhagatram
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p74iVgUy-k0
20. Kaun kehta hai by Shreya Ghoshal and Udit Narayan, film Blackmail (2005), lyrics Sameer, music Himesh Reshamiya
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSDoM2IArQk
With refeence to the first song “Kuchh Log To Kahenge” from “Amar Prem” I wonder the word “Kuchh Log” means some people or if you take the whole line and translate it as “Some”, and then say some (thing) people would say … that means people had some saying which often not good or some of the people would say “(something) that is hurtful.
In the context of the Actress Minister Smriti Irani it was hurtful. I think lady had very bad welcome fromt ehmedia right from the begning.
That due her public image too much exposed in the media and made her job difficult. But then PM has right to do reshuffling whenver he finds it necessary.
As for the present ambiance of the post and taken to some sort of Olympic mood is new invention on the “SoY” and enjoyable to see.
For me I do not like any kind of “Competitive Race”. But Ima not immune to watch thegames. I watch Tennis and Oxfor Cambridge Boat Race regularly. But Idonot watch Football or Cricket.
Personally Isay about present state
“Hod Lagi hai Duniya Ke Bazaar Mein Dil Ki
Yahan To Kabase Dil Jalaa Hai Par Hod Nahi Buzi”
Shalan La
in continuation……
21. Dil unse kehte darta ha by Geeta Dutt and Lata Mangeshkar, film Surjamukhi (1950), lyrics Rajendra krishan/Gulshan Jalalabadi, music Husnlal-Bhagatram
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCTDvceYGFI
22. Kah Kah Do Kali Badli Daraye Na by Geeta Dutt and Surinder Kaur, film Khamosh Sipahi (1950), lyrics D N Madhok, music Hansraj Behl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H618hmDpJ9g
23. Mujhse Ye Keh Rahi Hai by Md.Rafi, Shamshad Begum, Geeta Dutt, film Gauna (1950), lyrics Qamar Jalalabadi, music Husnlal-Bhagatram
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oICEN0ZYIGc
And some more …………
24. Sach Kahati Hai Duniyaa Isak Pe Jor Nahin by Lata Mangeshkar, film Ishq par Zor Nahi (1970), lyrics Anand Bakshi, music S D Burman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3oghw0iswI
25. Kaise Kahu Kaise Kahu by Lata Mangeshkar, film Kaise kahun (1964), lyrics Shakeel Badayuni, music S D Burman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQ2iTQvcwF0
26. Aise Me Kachhu Kaha Nahi Jaye by Asha Bhosle, film Bombai Ka Babu (1960), lyrics Majrooh Sultanpuri, music S D Burman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pT-hc_L5h3E
27. Sharmili Nigahen Kehti Hain by Asha Bhosle, film Society (1955), lyrics Sahir Ludhianvi, music S D Burman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MD4_FKwOx80
28. Dekho Mose Sanchi Kaho Banwari by Lata Mangeshkar, film Madbhare Nain (1955), lyrics Shailendra, music S D Burman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeYcVaLV3VM
29.Ek hum aur dusre tum, tisra koi nahi yu kaho hum ek hain, aur dusra koi nahi by Kishore Kumar, Geeta Dutt, film Pyar (1950), lyrics Rajendra Krishan, music S D Burman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gPuljzRFO4
30. Kahne ko hai taiyar magar kaise kahe hum by Geeta Dutt and Surendra, film Kamal (1949), lyrics Gopal Singh Nepali, music S D Burman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBKSYXuUKXs
Jignesh,
Hope you are keeping track and doing necessary tabulation. All the best.
@Jignesh (101)
I am enjoying it but can’t carry on. Maybe if it WERE the Olympics I would have 🙂 – but this is so much more difficult….:)
No, the truth is, this does take up time (something I genuinely don’t have too much of) – and I’ve truly had my fun. Now, so many songs have been added, it’s almost going to be a race to the Internet and YouTube rather than a Kehnathlon coming from one’s memory …which it was for me. But I still think it’s a lot of fun, and of course I will remain here till the finish – but prefer to do so as an observer from the sidelines 🙂 Maybe silently cheering my favourites…….:)
Nasreenji
I understand your discouragement.
But do u know we have arranged a pair of 3 medals for each gender ?
So, dont be hopeless..and try to keep going as possible as..
Venkataramanji
ab kya bataau aap ko..
apni hi buni hui jaal men buri tarah se fans chuka hun 🙁
Jignesh,
Himmat na harna. Look at my predicament. Bhatiaji aur Arvinderji were doing a fantastic job! I poked my nose in the temptation of a bronze. AKji is a nice person. He knows about my flashes of over enthusiasm. He gave me an exit route by offering the fair play medal. But I heroically (naively) declared, I WON’T SETTLE FOR ANYTHING LESS THAN BRONZE.
Jignesh, I know you are a honourable person and will go any length to keep your commitment. I am anxious to know the latest score card.
In the meantime there are few more additions, please take them into account too. I will post them within a short time. Thank you Jignesh.
Had simply shared some songs of my choice on the theme, so irresistible, with no intention of participating in any race for which I am too old. Please keep me out.Best of luck to every one !!
here are my further additions
31. Bolo bolo ha bolo bolo re sajanva by Nirmala, film Kanoon (1943), lyrics D N Madhok, music Naushad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbxgSP_6rjE
32. mai kaise kahu tute hue dil ki kahani by Amirbai Karnataki, film Nargis (1946), lyrics Qamar Jalalabadi, music Husnlal-Bhagtaram
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dv17UcoQXac
33. Kuch Keh Na Sake Kuch Keh Bhi Gaye by Amirbai Karnataki, Shahnaz (1948), lyrics Akhtar Pilibhiti, music Amirbai Karnataki
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYqheJJD1TY
34. Aye dil tere gamo ka mai kahu kis se fasana by Rajkumari, film Parda (1949), lyrics Ramand Sarswati, music Sharmaji
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sesx5jnXayU
35. Hava Too Unase Jaakar Kah De by Md.Rafi and Shamshad Begum, film Rim Jhim (1949), lyrics Moti, music Khemchand Prakash
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BWmXZzANmQ
36.Kehti Hai Jawani Kisi Ko Dil Me Basa Le by Asha Bhosle, film Lekh (1949), lyrics Qamar Jalalabadi, music Krishna Dayal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cjN-5w4Pg0
…………….
37. Sach Kahataa Hai Johnny Walker by Asha Bhosle, film Aji Bas Sukhriya (1958), lyrics Farooq Qaisar, music Roshan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9jd0ejCF6Y
38. Kaho Ji Tum Kya Kya Kharidoge by Lata Mangeshkar, film Sadhna (1958), lyrics Sahir Ludhianvi, music N Dutta
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48Ow0m62Y5c
and a few more…….
39. Mai Kyo Na Nachhu Aaj, Kaho Ji, Mera Jiya Lehraya by Asha Bhosle, flm Paigham (1959), lyrics Kavi Pradeep, music C Ramchandra
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weItqjKUw6w
40. Haale Dil Mai Kya Kahu by Lata Mangeshkar, film Uran Khatola (1955), lyrics Shakeel Badayuni, music Naushad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tf0ZTIEScNI
41. Aankho Me Aankhe Daal Ke Kya Kehna Chate Ho by Shamshad Begum, film Toofan aur Diya (1956), lyric Bharat Vyas(?), music Vasant Desai
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUkwmpJ3HMU
42. Bedardi Nazaren Milaa Ke Kah De Kyaa Hai Teri Marzi by Lata Mangeshkar, film Aji Bas Sukhriya (1958), lyrics Farooq Qaisar, music Roshan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPcY7kQzXYQ
Venkataramanji
points are ready of all the players..but i will not reveal it right now..i can only tell u that u have done a great job today. U r among top 5 with Hansji, Bhatiaji, Sharmaji and Siddharthji.
But one thing i want to inform, Hansji is far ahead then the other 4, with only single attempt.
…..in continuation of songs @98 , here are a few more…..
38. Haseen waadiyon….Rafi…..Lal Bangla….Usha Khanna
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqnkz4iF_3I
39.Yeh jhuki jhuki si nigahen teri…..Rafi. …Aao pyar karen…Usha khanna
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CO87_dSKYfc
40.Ek dil ne kaha….Rafi….Parda…..Khayam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dE9PdDTUafc
41.main agar kahoon…Sonu Nigam, Ghoshal….Om Shanti Om…..Vishal, Shekhar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jBpcxGOM_4
42.Tum se kuch kahna hai…..Mukesh, Lata….Guest House….Chitragupt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F__xdNl8L2M
42. Ek bar jara tum kehdo….Hemant, Lata…Bin Badal Barsaat…Hemant Kumar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ogTW0c6Muo
….to be continued…..
AK
The present race for posting maximum number of songs in the hope of receiving a medal has become sort of frenzy. You as the final judge are in an unenviable position like Paris in the Greek Legend when he had to judge who was the best goddess among the three. He chose one for her beauty and the result was the Trojan War. I hope this will be confined to this blog and not extended for future ones. I will be on the sidelines awaiting final result.
DP Rangan,
My intent was to include only those songs in which the focus was on “kahna”. I had also given an illustration of “Saawan ke baadlo, unse ye ja kaho” that it would not be treated as a “kahna” song, as the focus was on saawan/baadal. Yet this was mentioned by the readers and several more merely on the basis of the word “kahna” occurring in the song. The filter was swept away by the deluge. Therefore, I accepted the inevitable and allowed all songs which have “kahna” or its variant in the mukhada of the song. Jignesh is doing an admirable job as a judge. I plan to compile those songs which fit my criteria originally intended. This would not affect the medals given by Jignesh.
@Jignesh 114
Thank Jignesh for your persistence in trying to keep everyone in the game:) I’m honestly not after a medal and definitely don’t deserve any 🙂
But having said that, here’s a song I just thought of, not necessarily to be added to my score. Also not sure if it has been added by someone before. Now that it’s all official and there are judges, I think it’s fair to hand over the painful task of checking duplications, etc. to them. I did think of “Unko yeh shikayat hai ki hum kuch nahi kehte” then noticed that Mr. Siddharth (Post 104) has added it already towards the end of his list.
The other song which I thought of was:
Zara nazron se kehdo ji
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yisr8axdkUE
Not sure if it’s a duplication.
But just to avoid being thought of as “Really Unsporting” 🙂 I may keep coming back if any more songs strike me on this theme. With the several long lists we have already, I feel we might have reached the point of exhaustion.
Rakeshji and DPRanganji
I know you people were and are not the part of this crazy race and our regular interesting discussions have been sidelined since last one or two days, but this was not anticipated And anticipited does never happen.
This drama is a rare occurence on SoY and will end soon. Until then let encourage our energetic and dynamic runners to win a Gold for our country.. 🙂
Siddharthji
Unko yeh shikayat hai….is a REPEAT….and from this post’s MAIN LIST ???!! this is a Major offence..
KSBhatiaji @122
no. 40 and 41 are Repeats !
Jignesh,
You are right. I thought i was careful but still repeated the song and that too from the main list.
Seeing so many songs one would say –
Kehne ko jashn-e-bahara hai ishq ye dekh ke hairaan hai.
One more popular number –
Phoolon ka taaron ka sabka kehna hai
and finally kabhi alvida na kehna.
Couldn’t resist posting this one –
Mayi ri main kaase kahoon peer apne jiya ki (Dastak) (1970)
Singers-Lata/Madan Mohan, Lyrics-Majrooh Sultanpuri, MD-Madan Mohan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abpFlf-wiYI
Hello everybody, I am back.
43. aye sabah unko kah jara ke hume bekarar kar diya by Md. Rafi and Shamshad Begum, film Alibaba aur 40 Chor (1954), lyrics Raja Mehdi Ali Khan, music S N Tripathi and Chitragupt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xMFfDzzuc0
44. Mere Dil Kee Dhadakan Kya Bole by Lata Mangeshkar and Talat Mahmood, film Anhonee (1952), lyrics Shailendra, music Roshan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjA_zcslOF4
45. Iss Dil Kee Halat Kya Kahiye by Lata Mangeshkar, film Anhonee (1952), lyrics Sardar, music Roshan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_5lXJe53BE
46 kaha hai unhone ye raaz e mohabbat kasam hai tumhe tum kisi se na kahna by Lata Mangeshkar, film Anhonee (1952), lyrics Satyendra, music Roshan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQSEqGoLmlk
47. Mere Piya Se Koyi Jake Keh De by Lata Mangeshkar, film Aashiana (1952), lyrics Rajinder Krishan, music Madanmohan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zfg9ZyDobFQ
Venkataramanji
43 and 47 are repeats.
44…is a variant…i can give u 5 for that.
i am happy u brought a fantastic song of Rajkumari from Parda 1949…Aye dil tere ghamon ka main kahu kis se fasana.
and Haal e dil main kya kahun
Has SoY now become something else, far from what it was supposed to be?
Nasreenji
Zara nazron se keh do ji
is also a repeat from Hansji’s list.
But, u brought a nice non-filmy ghazal of Rafi :
Aaj is khat men nayi baat tumhen likhta hun..
since Likhta hun is a silent cousin of Kehta hun,
and the act is being done by first person u will get 5 for this.
Siddharthji
your latest release Maai rii main kaase kahun
is a candidate of “Produnova”….bravo
the entry of Lataji in this song after MM’s verse is as impactful as Mukesh’s in Ramaiya Vastavaiya…isnt ?
Jignesh,
#132
Accepted. My mistake.
#133
True. One good thing about this exercise is, I could listen to some good songs after a long time and few were new to me.
I can see/sense murmurs of disapproval. I understand. It will not last long. This is a one-off case. Please bear with me/us.
Dinesh,
Nothing has changed in SoY. The Olympic fever has caught on the readers. Jignesh has also announced the race would when the next post appears. Meanwhile, there is no bar on readers engaging in a different kind of discussion.
Here is a dance song by P Susheela of the south. Vaijayanthimala was the dancer. I came to know about this song and the film from Atulji’s blog this year (February), where Sadanand Kamathji had posted this song with a description about the choreographer. Arunji had provided the details about the MD Ramesh Naidu.
48. Kya Kya Kahu Re Kanha by P Susheela, film Piya Milan (1958), lyrics Harsh, music Ramesh Naidu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qU-ljQ5ZaFI
Siddarthji’s Produnova entry ‘Maai rii main kaase kahun’ reminded me of another song from the same film.
49. Tumse Kahoon Ek Baat Paron Se Halki – Halki by Md.Rafi, film Dastak (1970), lyrics Majrooh Sultanpuri, music Madanmohan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Oqmz1pPXuU
A Saigal song
50. Us mast nazar pe padi jo nazar, kajre ne kaha mat dekho idhar, maine kaha mai to dekhunga by K L Saigal, film Parwana 1947, lyrics D N Madhok, music Khemchand Prakash
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybzqpS2jhXQ
I am posting another song from Sanam, Hansji posted the song Main kahdoon tumko chor by Suraiya & Rafi
51. Ye Kehti Hai Dunia Tujhe Bhul Jau by Suraiya, film Sanam (1951), lyrics Qamar Jalalabadi, music Husnlal-Bhagatram
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7lCqitHzuY
An interesting song. There is no orchestration/Prelude or interlude in this song. Hearing this song for the first time. Had it been already posted,I might have missed it.
52. Husn kehte hai mujhe noor ka shola hoon main…by Talat Mahmood & Asha Bhosle, film Mera Salam (1957), lyrics Shewan Rizvi, music Hafeez Khan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9XnVG5MHTY
A NFS Ghazal by Asha Bhosle followed by another Ghazal by Farida Khanum
53. RoodadE Mohabbat Kya Kahiye by Asha Bhosle, NFS Album Meraj E Ghazal (1983), lyrics Saghar Siddique, music Ghulam Ali
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtot6QbWmG4
54. Na-rawaa Kahiye, Na-sazaa kahiye by Farida Khanum, Album : Farida Khanum in concert Vol.2 (1979), lyrics Dagh Dehelvi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3p_fbHw7M7c
Here is another find (at least for me). While searching I came across this melodious song (in fact two versions-Male / Female), KHUCH APNI KAHIYE KHUCH MERI SUNIYE from a 1963 Pakistani film Talaash. I gathered that it was golden jubilee hit film produced from Dhaka.The music director was Robin Ghosh, was from East Pakistan (later Bangladesh) and he won the best compser award (Nigar Award) for the year 1963 for this film.
55. Kuch apni kahiye kuchh meri suniye, Pakistani film Talaash (1963), lyrics Suroor Barbankvi/ Ishrat Calkattvi, music Robin Ghosh
The female version by Ferdausi Begum
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaFVGY5h_wQ
The male version by Basheer Ahmed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eTBxiOw3K8
Ksbhaatiaji @ 7
I am sorry, I missed your comment altogether.
Kahne to kooch is a typical C H Atma song but I would not put on the same level as Koochh di lne kaha
That song will fetch you double points:)
Hans,
You were back with a bang after a long absence and once again you are quiet. Are you preparing for a century?
Jignesh,
You are being too kind by having 3 medals for my gender, that means that you guarantee Nasreen and me with gold or a silver and a bronze for anyone who chips in a song or two
I am sure Nasreen will agree with me that we are here to enjoy the fun of participation and competition If we deserve we will win, we want to win on level playing field.
We are not as serious and professionals. All the contenders for medals are numbering their songs!
We are as serious as this sher
ज़माना बडे शौक से सुन रहा था
हम ही सो गाये दास्ताँ कहते कहते
Any points for this sher?
Sorry Hans!
Question for umpire and third umpire any negative points for not uploading songs?
Venkataramanji,
Enjoying the barrage of songs! Contending for gold!
I am here with few more.
Kismet ka khel Lata Manna dey
Kah do ji kah do
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEo1mYLlwac
Madhur Milan Lata
Nazaren kooch nahin kahte
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWWO9CGyebw
Opera House Lata
Sonana sitaron ka hai kahna
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzBPSacsd0Q
This song came to mind after listening to Venkataramanji song # 43
Kabuliwala Rafi
Ay saba kahna mere dilder ko
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gj5sPtRpIiA
One more inspired by Venkataramanji .
A ghazal by Ghulam Ali
Kyoon poochhte ho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGPQxO5JVgQ
Bhatiaji one mistake its @77 and not 7
Mumbaikarji,
Yes , you are right. Barrage of songs. Bombardment, onslaught?
This is my first attempt/ experience in posting so many songs. And I realize when you try to get quantity, quality suffers. But among the heap you find some new songs and sometimes a couple of gems too. . BTW song #43 was earlier posted by Arvinderji. Thank you for listening to the songs and the additions. Enjoyed the last two songs.
I would have loved to hear the following Ghazal in the voice of Habibwali Mohammad. Could not find the link.
56. Ja kahiyo unse nasime shaher by Mehdi Hassan, lyrics Bahdur Shah Zafar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AQJGYqD19A
To remain in contention here are few more….
57. Kaho Ek Baar, Mujhe Tumse Pyar by Talat Mahmood & Geeta Dutt, film Shabistan (1951), lyrics Qamar Jalalabadi, music C Ramchandra
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAyp7VSXfQA
58. Kaho Ji Hum Kab Tak Kunware by Shankar Dasgupta & Sudha Malhotra, film Andheri Nagari Chaupat Raja (1955), lyrics Bharat Vyas, music Avinash Vyas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXgChXIqgH0
59. Sajanva fir to kaho ek baar balamva fir to kaho ek baar by Asha Bhosle,Raftaar (1955), lyrics Nakhshab Jaaravchi, music Shivram
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hvkUmajeUw
60. Kehte Hai Jise Duniya by Md.Rafi, film Taxi 555 (1958), lyrics Prem Dhawan, music Sardar Malik
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XhXYo_671M
61. AeJji O Ji Kaho Ji by Md.Rafi and Shamshad Begum, film Chandi Puja (1957), lyrics Kavi Pradeep, music Ajit Merchant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcYCM49v-VY
Venkatraman ji ;
I never knew we all were to face your hidden identity of Mr. Bolt …the champion runner…..with many Golds to his credit . An ant like me can’t reach even to the finishing line . Since I have to boost the morale of others I will add few more songs. The chances of duplication are increasing as theme songs are getting exhausted .
44. Sach kehta hun….Asha, Rafi…OPN….Jaali Note
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hu7Ey8seEEE
45.Ek baat kahun…..Asha….Naushad…Amar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEVP4KhplXs
46.Preet yeh kaise bol….Lata….SJ….Daag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6GrBRIkrbk
47.Akeli mohe chhood na jaana……Lata, Kamal Barot…KA…Madari
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAu3YdqaLxQ
48.Na bole na bole….Lata…CR….Azaad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pa1IMuOVwg0
49. Zulmi sang aankh laadi…Lata…Salil da….Madhumati
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvWnq8346KA
50.Tujhe kya sunaon main….Rafi…MM….Aakhri Dao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BIthkZoemI
….to be contd. …….
Nasreen
I am relieved that you have started posting songs. But, you are mistaken. All those posting songs are ardent listeners and do not rely on youtube except for providing links. I have a very long playlist. Sharmaji and Venkataramanji have perhaps bigger and certainly more varied list than mine. Bhatiaji is just a powerhouse who remembers even the words from antaras. Bhatiaji, Sharmaji and I listen regularly to Panjabi songs also. Venkataramanji is a multi-lingual expert. In SOY even a single song is important. Arunji mostly posts one or two songs, but all of us eagerly wait for his posts. you have seen that a single song mentioned from film ‘gogola’ elicited so much information. So never get disheartened and continue posting.
Siddharth
You have actually posted a list of so many gems. The Mukesh songs along with the other Mukesh songs indicate that he had a special relationship with ‘kehna’ songs like with ‘dil’, on which a special post was done by AK. Kah rahi hain dhadkanen pukar kar by the unusual pair of Talat and Geeta is just great and I listened it twice after seeing your list after a long gap. The duet from Tumsa Nahin Dekha is my favourite. Its tune is inspired from a haryanvi song and the words ‘o tera kya kehna’ have been directly lifted from that haryanvi song. In fact all the three Asha-Rafi duets are kehna songs.
Dekho kasam se kasam se kahte hain hain tumse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBpIDOSp8hg
Aaye hain door se milne huzoor se, kahiye ji kuchh to kahiyehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdURLIJ8slQ
Sharmaji
You reminded me of the duet from Sangam in which Mahendra Kapoor floored bogh Lata and Mukesh with his grand expression of the songs. Your list contains so many great songs which are my and everybody else’s favourites.
Mumbaikar8
Thanks for the praise. Actually, I had a list of more than 100 songs ready. But, it was late night and my fingers had become sore and I was already feeling awkward for posting such a long list. I was waiting for others to post. I feel happy when others post my favourites. Mostly I have long lists on every thread, but I delay posting so that others, because it is better if songs come from a varied field.
Venkataramanji
You have posted so many gems. In fact you and Sharmaji have done the real research work on this blog. I have just posted from my playlist. Your song at no.19 just stumped me ‘mujhe dard de ke ye keh diya’. What lyrics and the tune by Behl and great singing by Shamshad. And this was absolutely new for me. Thanks.
Jignesh
Though you have not noticed my repeats, it is my duty to point them out. i took care, but mukhdas of some songs were not mentioned and only links were given. Some others were mentioned between the posts which I did not notice when I had hurriedly scanned through the old posts. The songs are
1. koi kahde zamane se jake
2. pate ki baat kahega
3. kehta hai joker
4. jo tumko ho pasand
5. mujhe jaan na kaho
And thanks for not scratching me for the doubt of doping, though anybody else would have thought I might have used PEDs for typing such a long list.
Mumbaikar8ji
you have added a super melody here..one of my darling songs.
Bulo CRani’s master creation : Fiza chup hai from Madhur Milan
JaanNisaar Akhtar’s wonderful lyrics
Fiza chup hai hawa chup hai nazare kuchh nahi kehte
kahan dubi meri kashti kinare kuch nahi kehte
meri bebas nigahon ne mere betaab ashqon ne
sitaron se tumhen puchha sitare kuch nahi kehte
gham-e-dil ka ishara hai chale aao chale aao
mohabbat besahara hai
kahan jakar chhupe ho aa bhi jaao, aa bhi jaao, aa bhi jaao
agar chaho bacha lo tum
agar chaho mita do tum
mite par bhi pukarega mera dil
aa bhi ja, aa bhi ja
gham-e-dil ka ishara hai chale aao chale aao
listen this too sweet composition of the great composer again..
this film has another Lata classic
Thukra ke hame yun jaa
listen this song’s prelude :
Ruth jaane ka to andaaz juda hota hai
Ye bataa jaa koi is tarah khafa hota hai…..
Amaaazing…..salute to BCRani.
Hansji
I know your Repeats….but today i have pointed only today’s repeats due to time factor.
keh rahi hai dhadkane pukar kar from Lal pari
is posted here first by SSWji.
Mumbaikar8ji
you have 2 more questions :
1. Any points for this sher ?
ans : if u can find any filmy-non filmy song having this SHER as mukhda then u can get points. Free SHERs are not eligible to score any point.
2. Any penalty for Hansji for not presenting links here ?
ans : Yes, definitely. When all participants come with YT links except him then unke liye penalty to banti hai. We have decided a sweet penalty for him…will reveal later.
Venkataramanji
49. Tumse kahu ek baat is also a Repeat.
And now for some songs.
1. Chahe koi mujhe janglee kahe has been missed by all and by me in the first list. I am not giving the link as this might be on everybody’s playlist.
2. ‘Chhod do aanchal zamana kya kahega’ was also on my list but it has been already posted. So I am posting its sister song where anchal is replaced by zulfen and zamana is replaced by sab log. ‘Chhedo na meri zulfen sab log kya kahenge by Lata-Kishore
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goA5oQbFFUU
3. ‘Tora man darpan kahlaye’ by Asha from Kaajal. I am skipping its link.
4. ‘Kaise kahun main baat jia ki saanwaria’ is a great song by Asha from Gehra Daag. Ravi composed so many great songs for Asha and to me he is much better than OPN so far as Asha is concerned. Asha sings the song unmatched soft voice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0Tog_e_HSo
5. ‘Tu laage mora baalam ye kaise kahun main’ is a duet by Geeta and Usha Khanna from Hum Hindustani. The film was a great score by Usha Khanna after the stupendous Dil Deke Dekho.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbBYrk5Xs4Y
6. The qawwali ‘meri barbaadi par mera ishq hi badnaam hai’ by unusual qawwali pair Rafi-Lata (Lata did not like the qawwali genre) from Chambal Ki Rani composed by Naushad, who also did not like qawwalis, starts with the prelude ‘fariyad karen hum to zamane se bure hain wo dard bhi de den to koi kuchh nahin kehta’. I am posting this song to show that Naushad was not dead wood after 1968.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1uf987Eqbc
7. ‘Bheegi hui is raat ka aanchal kehta hai lahra ke’ by Asha from Neend Hamari Khwab Tumhare
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSyfRPx1nx8
AK
Any blog of this nature is bound to get diluted and ultimately you may stand in danger of forgetting what was the theme with which you started. After you choose your final list of songs, send it to me and I will codify it as I have done for a blog. I can visualise Bhatiaji, Venkataramanji and others of their elk, burning midnight candle and pour through pages of Harminderji’s magnum opus to ferret out more songs. My main pursuit is serious photography, and I will feel like a fish out of water in this field. Others have done the back breaking hard work and I enjoy fruits of wonderful songs to listen to. I thank them all from the bottom of my heart.
@ 134 & 137
AK, and all other SoY veterans and connoisseurs,
I do not at all wish to be anything like a spoilsport for anyone, but all along so far I thought, and was much encouraged, that the whole idea here is quality – rather than quantity. Frankly, I completely fail to see the point of cataloguing all songs which have the word ‘kahna’ and any of its myriad variants, even in the Olympics spirit.
Moreover, just having the word kahna in any variant does not mean that it necessarily has any specific significance; in most cases it would not.
All our friends who are far more knowledgeable than me, with due respect, may I appeal to you to please rather focus on good quality songs on the theme “Kuchh to log kahenge” which may have been missed out by AK…
Hans-ji (147)
Sir, I apologise if you thought I was referrring to your list when I mentioned the race to YouTube. I was here a long time ago, I think almost when SoY started (AK, if you read this, pls correct me if I am wrong) – and my memory of it is at best dim, but I do remember that you were considered a stalwart with your posts. I mentioned YouTube and the Internet because that is what I would have had to do myself had I wanted to keep up with your and the others’ long lists. I know that I am nowhere near as knowledgeable about music as others here. That is a fact because I have no training at all in music unlike many of you here, neither do I know so many songs, nor do I have as good a memory. I hope you don’t doubt my respect for every one of you. In fact, I have been away and even now don’t really feel part of the “team”. But enjoy the general intellectuality and high calibre of this site’s members, and have to admit that sometimes it goes over my head because I am not up to it all.
But enough of this 🙂
Here is a song I was just humming while cooking. And realised it has the word “kahoon” in the second line. Not sure if it qualifies but am adding it here:
Zulmi sang aankh ladi …….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvWnq8346KA
And when I went to YouTube to get the link, I found this one:
Dil tadap tadap ke KEH raha….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o184v83-gkk
These may well be duplicates.
Bhatiaji,
Thanks for the moral boosting additions.
Akji’ invitation for some out of the box comments (#9), prompted me to look for some vintage songs and I posted them. Further spurred by Jignesh (#74), I jumped into action, which was rather impulsive.
I decided to take the plunge into the sea rather than a pool or a pond or a river, in the hope that I may find a few pearls, before I guzzle a lot of salt water and eventually drown in the process. But that would fetch me, posthumously, a Khenathron Ratna award.
Desperately trying to break the surface,
This is from the unreleased film. The song was recorded most probably in 1960
62. Kaho ji tumhen kiss se pyar hai by Mohd Rafi & Asha Bhonsle, Pyar Bana Afsana (unreleased/1960), lyrics Aziz Qaise, music Iqbal Qureshi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkH7rSFwlv8
63. Zaraa Suno Suno Kyaa Kahen Nigaahen by Lata Mangeshkar, film Sangeeta (1950), lyrics Pyarelal Santoshi, music C Ramchandra
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PFJ_GsQcr4
64. Maati Kahe Kumbhar Se Tu Kya Raunde Mohe Ek Din Aisa Aayega by Shankar Dasgupta, film Adhikar (1954), lyrics traditional/Raja Mehdi Ali Khan, music Avinash Vyas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X63yGmNXqXQ
65. Log Kahe Mere Nain Banwre by Lata Mangeshkar, film Chandan (1958), lyrics Rajinder Krishan, music Madan Mohan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1-AKYoDWrQ
66. Ye Kahe Chandni Raat, Suna Do Apne Dil Ki Baat by Lata Mangeshkar, film Nirmohi (1952), lyrics P N Rangeen, music Madan Mohan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnTZVyYsVEE
67. Kehta Tha Zamana, Magar Humne Na Maana by Asha Bhosle and Md.Rafi, Film Aag ka Dariya (1953) lyrics Aziz Kashmiri, music Vinod
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umiNbYF_5_I
68. Mere Pardesi Mehman Kaha Mera Maan by Md.Rafi & Shamshad Begum, film Andheri Nagari Chaupat Raja (1955), lyrics Bharat Vyas, music Avinash Vyas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXNOl7Qdh2c
Hansji,
Thanks for all those nice comments. I am not sure about the qualities, kindly ascribed to me. I am happy that you too could find some likable songs from the accumulation. Thanks for the additions too. BTW the MD of the song no.19 was Husnlal-Bhagatram and not Hansraj Bahl.
Jignesh,
#153
As of now, my number stands at 68 minus 3. I do not know how much that translates into points.
You are doing an excellent job in your new avatar. You too should get an award for this selfless service.
Thanks a lot
Ranganji
Thank you for your considerate comments.
True, Harminderji’s HFGK is indeed a good reference point. But in this case I did not scan through the pages of HFGK. There are other means, less arduous.
Nasreen,
I read all comments even if I may appear to be silent at times. Everyone has his own way of expressing his views. Most often trivial matters might cause misunderstanding. I think it is best to ignore and move on.
Dinesh,
You have raised a good point, which I had stated in my post too. But I didn’t want to dampen the enthusiasm of the readers. We did come across some great hidden gems in the process.
AKji,
I find my comment no. 158 is awaiting moderation, while my next comment has gone through smoothly. That is strange.
AK (160)
Thanks for the advice.
Moving on to another song I thought of:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekgGR1Rr6rE
Kaho na pyaar hai.
Nasreen
There is no need for an apology. I was only trying to clarify my as well as some other posters whom I have personally met in view of your comment 113. But I never take a grudge against anyone. I have already had a few spats with AK and we have very sweet relations. Regarding your point on memory, I would say that memory is a relative term. I have a rural background and I have seen many illiterates remember hundreds of kisse, kahaniyana, chutkule and other anecdotes. My mother remembered hundreds of haryanvi folk songs by heart and could sing any song on demand at 5 seconds notice, though she never went to school. Everyone has his/her field of mastery. The advent of mobiles have divested us of the capacity to remember phone nos and calculators have spoiled the calculating power of the whole of present generation, though they cannot be said to be less intelligent. Regarding song memory, you would acquire it with time. It is a good habit to listen and sing while cooking or doing other household chores. You can keep a small note book and pencil for noting down the songs for posting. I have read many of your comments and found them intelligent.
Regarding the Madhumati songs. I have scored them out from my list. Madhumati is one of my most favourite films which me and my family watch 2 or 3 times each year because of its music and the charming village girl look of Vyajyanti and also for the superb acting by Pran, Dilip, Johny Walker and Jayant.
Hans’ji ;
I am really enjoying your pole vault game . The number of songs you have posted in a short period of time is really amazing . Over and above the quality of songs is also truly superb .
This goes to my friend Venkatraman ji also . His posting of vintage songs is a listener’s delight .
I am waiting for other gem of a person Arvinder Sharma ji …..He is an excellent in the long Jump game . He must be collecting songs and surprise us with a good leap.
To take this musical olympiad further ; and also encouraging all to post the songs ; I am continuing my thread of songs from #146 .
51.Dil ka haal sune dilwala…..Manna Dey….SJ…Shri 420
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBlBBJWBSQw
52.Aaj koi pyar se…..Asha…OPN….Sawan ki ghata
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYRL1zLCP0k
53.Suno suno miss chatterji…..Rafi…OPN…Baharen phir bhi ayengi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lauAr3hjKpY
54Maine kahan tha aane ko…..Rafi, Asha…..Ravi…Ustaadoan ke ustad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z75jYGC-8gQ&list=RD-2JSilDIbPA&index=24
55.Jab se tumhe dekha hai….Rafi Asha….Ravi ……Gharana
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzVntnlyEbI&list=RD-2JSilDIbPA&index=19
56.Mere dil mein hai ek baat….Lata, Manna Dey…KA….Post Box 999
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBzGnjo0u7w&index=11&list=RD-2JSilDIbPA
57.Kehdo ji kehdo…..Lata, Manna Dey……SJ….Kismat ka khel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2JSilDIbPA
58.Mr. John yeh baba…..Asha…..CR….Baarish
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDfcXtIsgR8
59.Sach bata tu ……Asha, Talat….OPN….Sone ki chidiya
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThyPl4O47gM
60.Sunri sakhi mohe sajna bulaiye…..Lata…HemantKumar…Nagin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8KH_irQSec
….to be contd. …..
This is a message in lighter vein to those who are raising murmurs on the songs being posted. You should not grudge some limelight to the song posters who work hard for whole year. Come on, they are being offered some imaginary medals and not the real ones and that too after 6 years. I would remind them of the song ‘pal bhar ke liye koi hamen pyar kar le jhootha hi sahi’ from Johny Mera Naam and ask them to consider this
‘Pal bhar ke liye koi hamen maan de de jhootha hi sahi’.
Ranganji
For you I have a special message. You were urging Bhatiaji on in your Chand blog and asking him to race to 200 songs when he was posting at break neck speed. Even Dinesh did not worry about quality in that blog. Why you have changed your stand now. Are you afraid that these kehna songs may cross the number posted in your blog. If that is so, rest assured I will post more chand songs there because I have a very long list with me.
Disclaimer: Dont take it seriously except the fact that I have a long list of chand songs with me.
Dinesh
Quality is a subjective term. What may be quality for others may not be so for you. The song posters are all experienced and know what they are posting. We have shown our quality for views and comments of others. We are ready for your list of quality songs. You can make use of the already posted songs if you do not find others. We would request Jignesh to change the rules and provide the medals as per the number of songs of the posters getting a place in your list. Kindly post a list of at least 20 quality songs.
Now some songs (hum nahin sudhrenge)
1. Ye maati sabhi ki kahani kahegi – mahendra – navrang
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SE1wWAMIu8
2. Tere husn ki kya tareef karoon kuchh kehte hue bhi darta hoon – rafi – leader
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UL0b6PMJJA
3. Dil to rajamand hai phir bhi zuban band hai, kaise kahun mujhko mera baalma pasand hai – asha – mai baap (music by the great OPN). This song has another sad version also.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIq8BgrMlPs
4. Hujure wala jo ho ijajat to hum ye sare jahan se kah den – asha – ye raat phir na aayegi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6ym4uOOtEo
5. Raat akeli hai bujh gaye diye, aake mere paas kaanon men mere jo bhi chahe kahiye – asha – jewel thief
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu5RqqDRX2g
Hansji
well said. Quality is a subjective matter. I dont see any quality disturbance in this post because the songs posted by our legends here are mostly from golden era…an era which is synonym of Quality. Each and every piece produced by this era has quality, whichever you pick, even blindly. From well known to even completely unknown Composers have created high quality songs.
and
thanks for your sportsmanship that u yourself have pointed out your repeats.
but
it’s not 5, you have repeated 6 times.
and more
1. Jab tum hi nahin apne duniya hi begani hai ulfat jise kahte hain ik jhooti kahani hai – suraiyya – parwana
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SstGECLaf9o
2. hum dum mere maan bhi jao kehna mere – rafi – mere sanam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eU8AyjzRe_s
3. ashiq hoon ik mahjabin ka, log kahen mujhe – rafi – pagla kahin ka
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5gzRCiHo94
4. dilbar dilbar kahte kahte hua dewana – rafi – haseena maan jayegi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYLoc9ha0yQ
5. aji aisi nazar ko kya kahiye – rafi – johar mehmood in goa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Am0LgwGzHU0
yes
you people now really deserve Medals (though jhoothe hi sahi) for your incessant inputs in this forum, for your non stop and burning passion for our supermelodious music.
Jignesh
Thanks for you kind comments. You are right all the songs posted here are excellent. So I missed one even in the recheck.
Hans ji;
Some time I too feels that songs needs to be identified like …..stocked…..for all the songs contributed and as…..stacked…..for the quality songs packed separately for easy retrival .
For example here are two songs by Rafi with same initial lyrics. I am sure one can easily identify the box in which they should find their place.
61. Kehke bhi na aye tum….Rafi…CR…Safar[1946]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkPRAzcgS98
62. Kehke bhi na aye ….Rafi….Private
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ekURn_NOw4
Now this is really a very high quality song for its composition matching the lyrics so also selection of instruments as well its beats and rhythm .
Further …a few more songs…
63. Kuch aisi pyari shakl mere dil ruba ki hai….Rafi…MM…Naya Kanoon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwMS-KTiPjQ
…..to be contd. …..
More songs
1. tu husn hai main ishq hoon tu mujhmen hai main tujhmen hoon, main isse aage kya kahun – mahendra, asha – hamraaj
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1bcUMZ-7PQ
2. nazar ka jhuk jana – geeta – passport
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yxgkhC_8_A
3. chori chori jo tumse mili to log kya kahenge – lata, mukesh – parasmani
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8kkW7ngc1c
4. chupke se naja o man ke raja – asha – aag ka dariya
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyyQD-MV7cc
5. na milte hum to kaho tum – mukesh, lata – opera house
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDz-XYnnv8Q
Bhatiaji
You are right and thanks for so many great songs. I dont find any song of lesser quality in either your list or the the other lists. This may be due to the fact that our likes are somewhat similar.
Hans,
Welcome back.
Now you have arrived in real sense
Jignesh.
I have a request.
Along with a medal ksbhatiaji deserves a torch bearer award too!
Mumbaikar8ji
you are right. I will ask to the third umpire for this.
Hansji
I was in agreement with AK and hence posted the comment. I posted just one song and AK was kind enough to point out its irrelevance with the subject. With my poor diction, I decided to keep mum and enjoy the songs. I know that the saying out of sight out of mind applies to blogs. The latest will be latched on and pursued by our experts. I have already forgotten about the blogs I wrote. You are welcome to post songs on chand or sitare or others and I would welcome it.
Jignesh
I beg to disagree with you. Every song of the golden period is great is a sweeping statement. Some of the songs in those days were below average. I can agree that a greater number of songs in those days were good to be heard again and again and modern songs follow it in reverse order. Now and then some good songs are composed nowadays but they resemble old songs to a great extent. I can picturise you in judicial gowns presiding over this court and frequently striking the gavel to discipline the contestants.
AK,
One song with anecdote mentioned by Sanjeev Kohli ( Madan Mohan’s) son.
Laxmikant Pyarelal arrived at a restaurant where Madan Mohan was sitting with his family.
They could not see him. MM asked the waiter to go to LP and ask them for autograph for MM,
When waiter told them that MM was asking for their autograph they came to greet him at his table and said साहेब क्यूँ शर्मिंदा कर रहे हो to which he replied “ये दिल कहीं लगता नहीं” क्या गाना बनाया है काश यह मेरा होता
Tum hi kahdo ay jane wafa hum kya karen Film Izzat Lata Rafi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbrJ0QmAxiQ
some more ……..
69. Hum Kisi Se Na Kahenge Chup Chup Se rahenge by Shamshad Begum & Geeta Dutt, film Yahudi Ki Ladki (1957), lyrics Hairat Sitapuri, music Hemant Kumar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlpbgXFZVyM
70. Kuch Tum Jo Kaho Humse by Asha Bhosle, film Thokar (1953), lyrics Harsh Tandon, music Sardar Malik
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hT5TKqIbKDI
Listening to this song for the first time
71. Dil Ki Batain Dil Mein Hi Rakhna, Kabhi Kisi Se Kehna Na by Hemant Kumar, film Taj aur Talwar (1956), lyrics Satya Rai, music Sudipt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEoaVi_vD8Y
72. Kabhi To Han Han Han Kaho Na, Na Meri Jaan by Md.Rafi & Geeta Dutt, film Son of Sindbad (1958), lyrics prem Dhawan, music Chitragupt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRtGW641DRc
73. Kehti hoon har baar yahi tujh se mera pyaar ji dildaar by Shamshad Begum, film Taajposhi (1957), lyrics Tanveer Naqvi, music Bipin-Babul
Radio Ceylon 25-04-2016-Monday Morning- Purani Filmon Ka Sangeet , Song No.6 (17:45)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgjSqSdELDk
74. Jal Jal Ke Maru Kuch Kah Na Sakau by Mubarak Begum, film Sheesha (1952), lyrics Shakeel Badayuni, music Ghulam Mohammad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DCiH_4SJic
A nice melody
75. Hum Dil Ki Kahani Kya Kahte by Lata Mangeshkar, film Shaadi Ki Raat (1950), lyrics Sarshar Sailani, music Govindram
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2WhGg3JGAY
76. Kaho Bhabhi Meri Kab Aayegi by Lata Mangeshkar, film Shaadi Ki Raat (1950), lyrics Nazim Panipati, music Govindram
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfOQo5xyEmw
77. Kah Do Koi Taqdeer Ke Dhoke by Asha Bhosle, film Sati Pariksha (1957), lyrics nazim Kanpuri, music Sanmukh Baba
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WtT5tq8hLc
78. Kehta Hai Pyar Mera O Mere Laadle by Lata Mangeshkar, film Santan (1959), lyrics Hasrat Jaipuri, music Dattaram Wadkar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQkyS9pZiwY
79. Mai Tujhko Agar Ek Phul Kahu by Talat Mahmood , film Salaam-e-Mohabbat (1955), lyrics Anjum Jaipuri, music Bipin-Babul
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3uJOZfrpgk
80. Kah Do Hame Na Bekarar Kare by Surinder Kaur & Md.Rafi, film Sabak (1950), lyrics D N Madhok, music Allarakah Qureshi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWZX80Fl5Jw
81. Mat Kahiyo Sajan Hum Jate Hai by Lata Mangeshkar, film Rasiya (1954/not released), lyrics D N Madhok, music Bulo C Rani
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfCIt0cZkMg
The Hindi version of the Bengali song Tumi Je Amaar from the film Harano Sur (1957)
82. Chale hum kahaa kaho chale hum kahaa by Geeta Dutt and Hemant Kumar, film Police (1958), lyrics Majrooh Sultanpuri, music Hemant Kumar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ub3J-CGZc0I
83. Dil Dil Se Keh Raha Hai. by Talat Mahmood & Lata Mangeshkar, film Parchhayian (1952), lyrics Noor Lakhnavi, music C Ramchandra
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkqLwTRCcxs
84. Kaun Kahe Unse Jaa Ke Huzur by Asha Bhosle, film Paapi (1953), lyrics Sarshar Sailani, music S Mohinder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWuA8DUvQ8c
85. Kahta Hai Yeh Dil Chal Unase Mil by Premlata, film Naghma (1953), lyrics Nakhshab Jaaravchi, music Nashad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdeTK1ibr1Y
A great melody… 1953, song discussed earlier in this blog
86. Jag Kahta Hai Mai Hu Andhi by Lata Mangeshkar, film Naina (1953), lyrics Pyarelal Santoshi, music Ghulam Mohammad or Manna Dey (?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDOLyi4y7qk
A nice Asha Bhosle song
87. Kaha Karti Hai Duniya Mera Nanha Chand Jaisa Hai by Asha Bhosle, film Mohini (1957), lyrics raja Mehdi Ali Khan, music N Datta
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lcojep1d4wc
88. Kaho Meri Sarkar Tabiyat Kaisi Hai by Md.Rafi & Asha Bhosle, film Trunk Call (1960), lyrics Qamar Jalalabadi, music Ravi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ldte4ey89Q
89. Socho Ji Socho Ji Zamana Kya Kahta Hai by Mohammed Rafi & Asha Bhosle, film Zamana badal gaya (1961), lyrics Aziz Kaisi, music Iqbal Qureshi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sj1DtPfLUX8
90. Chunnu Patang Ko Kehta Kite by Sudha Malhotra & Asha Bhosle, film Zameen Ke Taare, lyrics Anand Bakshi, music S Mohinder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHzHkpNg-vE
91. Chalte Chalte Mere Yeh Geet Yad Rakhna by Kishore Kumar, film Chalte Chalte (1976), lyrics Amit Khanna, music Bappi Lahiri
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0wU5vwMua0
DPranganji
plz dont take my opinion about golden era literally, just catch the essence of my statement
To All who are running breathless in finding songs on the “Kahana” theme and all those who are silent and not saying anything.
I think what has happened with this post is a wonderful thing. Perhaps those who are about to win or come near the winning post do not know that they are playing a “Musical Game”!
Something like the “Antyakshari”
But it is the American and Englsih speaking world a Musical game they are playing.
In American and English Speaking world, the musical game like “Antyakshari” cannot be played due to the abscence of the last letter in the word not being sounded or clearly identified.
But they play as AK has set up the song should have “Kahana” anywhere in the song,
So now it it is wonderful that and international participants can play this game and thanks to the internet and SoY post and powerful “Khajanichi”s of filmy and other popular songs, we can enjoy this. Thanks to AK as well for creating a post out of “Smriti Iranis” moaning irruption into “Kuchh Log To Kahnege”. I hope the Right Honourable Minister is reading this post. She certainly will get some joy out of this.
As I am enjoying the immense benefits from this “Gana Khajana” opened to me I am very grateful to all who have presented the songs.
Some body should eventually prepare a “Kosh” of these songs.
And I suggest from time to time we should have different subjects to explore the songs for this musical game.
This present situation has clearly presented that we all should be proud about this great heritage we are looting without much labour.
I am really oblgied to all these masters of songs. They all should be called “Hindi Songsters of the year”.
Thanks again
Shala La
Shalan,
Thanks a lot for your generous words. I believe everyone got into a competitive spirit, and had huge fun posting songs. Jignesh added to the fun by framing Rules of Contest. I remember one of the Rules was that the official competition would come to an end when a new post comes up. Since a new post on Mukesh’s vintage duets is up, I believe Jignesh would announce the medal winners.
Jignesh
Kindly dont consider my name for medals. The original posters deserve the medals. I had principally entered to post some very popular and well known songs which have been missed by my dear friends. I have still many songs with me which I will post here in due course, because I found this topic very interesting. If I had any intention of going for the medal, then I would have posted them in bulk. But, it would have been wrong to rob the original posters. Also, I was almost inactive within the last six months, while the others were regular. So they deserve this.
I have another proposal. Bhatiaji may be awarded the Life Time Achievement Award. Mumbaikar8 has also proposed something similar. Mumbaikar8 has perhaps made the most number of discoveries in this blog, though she is perhaps a little busy these days and is coming up with lesser number of songs. Some award should be given to her and nomenclature can be decided by AK. There is another proposal that a separate post be written for this so that fellow readers like us can felicitate them.
Now some songs by Rafi
1. jab ladka keh de haan – anjam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBz25kyBMpc
2. meri mohabbat jawan rahegi – janwar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mk0mLnZwA30
3. phool sa chehra chand si rangat – raat aur din
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LomC9HuM4vo
4. dil kahe rukja re rukja – man ki ankhen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXBgNIFBMS8
5. baat itni si hai kehdo – humrahi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7Mvvq9V_AQ
6. dharti kahe pukar ke – dharti kahe pukar ke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8DX_nQX4Eg
more Rafi
Two kehna songs from Aao Pyar Karen
Ye jhuki-3 nigahen teri dil ka raaj kah gayi. Its picturisation is unique Joy Mukherjee sings the song to Macmohan (sambha of Sholay fame).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3n4SV6jtZU
Jinke liye main deewana bana wohi kahte hain deewana mujhe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7Ir-ZF2wYI
3. haseen wadiyo fijaon se kah do – lal bangla
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oPBefJ7eGs
4. bhoola hua fasana humko na tha sunana – sau saal baad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUahnnw43Gk
5. chale ho kahan kaho – reporter raju
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzEHoP6Ptz8
6. meri morni sach kehta hoon – night in calcutta
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gt9WyOi9BVU
The great Kehnathlon competition has been concluded today at 9.00 a.m. IST and i know u all are waiting eagerly for the results. Hence, i am going to disclose the winners of this exciting contest.
Both Male and Female events became highly thrilling towards the end !!
so here we go……Dil Thaam Ke
the MALE Singles results
1.
SIDDHARTH
Fought very hard but not enough according to his capacity.
posted many song post-71 that cost him pointwise.
with 193 points he is awarded a
CUPRUM Medal
2.
ARVINDER SHARMA
scored 240 points …showed some laziness in the middle of this game and lost the Gold place, at one stage he was leading the race !
wins the BRONZE
3.
KSBHATIA
scored 425 points…repeated many times…He was believed to be an obvious winner in this game..and he was deserving too..but other mighty competitors have turned the table in last few laps and Bhatiaji remained at third place.
wins the SILVER
4.
N. VENKATARAMAN
In the beginning of this tournament this man was not even a contender of Silver. He had a dream to win at least a Bronze..but after the halfway mark of this tournament’s run he changed his gear and came in front from trailing at last with some big leaps..and against everyone’s expectations he won the GOLD with the score of 811.
wins the GOLD
5.
HANS
what to tell abt this man ? He is not from our planet !
He entered in this race after the halfway mark when Bhatiaji and Sharmaji were leading. With a single Giant leap he was ahead of everyone !!! A RAJINIKANTH FEAT. His entry in this race was so horrific and brutal in this game that the women running in nearby track were literally shocked, frightened and stopped to run !!! Referees made them calm and convinced them that he is not harmful to them..only after this assurance women started run again. SoY committee has decided to made a special medal for his stunning performance that values more then the gold.
scored 856
wins the PLATINUM MEDAL.
the FEMALE Singles results
two dynamic ladies ran neck to neck until the end
but Nasreen missed the gold by only 6 points !!
1.
MUMBAIKAR8
wins the GOLD with 98 points
2.
NASREEN
wins the SILVER with 92 points
3.
BRONZE is cancelled by committee bcz any other runner
could not fulfil the requirement of a minimum 50 points to win a medal.
I am very happy to declare the winners. CONGRATULATIONS to all the winners……
I am also thankful to the third umpire Mr. AK that he gave me an opportunity to judge a higher level tournament.
Hansji
i have listened you.
i have set you at such a place that our regular giants may not deprive from what they deserve.
and
i am not up to that level to give someone a life time award. It is AKji’s task.
Jignesh,
193 points a CUPRUM
and 98 points a gold.
बहुत ना इंसाफी है.
Mumbaikarji
isnt there NaaInsaafi where women just 3 sets and men have to fight for 5 !
Good to see that The Great Race concluded with such amazing results.
Congratulations to all the participants. I can hardly believe that I am there too among the winners, but that may be only because Ms. Shalan was not actively running. If there is a next SoY Olympics, Shalan you must join the female forces.
Re na-insaafi, Mumbaikar8, I think we have to concede that we are a bit privileged in that despite the difference in points between us and the men, we still had a gold and silver. I mean, Bhatiaji’s silver was for 425 points while my score was only 92 and I still got a silver!
All’s well that ends well, anyway. (But CUPRUM did come as a surprise, totally unexpected 🙂
I thought Akji or somebody on his behalf would give the vote of thanks, marking the close of Kehnathlon 2016.
I hope nobody will mind, if I take the onus on myself.
At the outset I would like to thank all the participants, Chair Judge and Chief Adjudicator for the smooth conduct of the Kehnathlon 2016. I would also like to thank all the members of the SoY fraternity for the encouragement, advice etc. received during the course of the event.
Hansji’s Platinum medal is equivalent to Dronacharya Award. He urged everybody to be in the race. He suddenly burst into the scene with a huge contribution. Every time I was in the process of catching up, he would post in installments of 5s or 7s, a moving goal post. In reality he was motivating everybody, with his song-postings and encouraging comments, to participate and not to leave the field, especially when the going was getting a bit rough. A Guru in the real sense. JIGNESH HAS RIGHTLY COMMENTED YOU ARE OUT OF THIS PLANET. Hats off to you Hansji.
Bhatiaji and Arvinderji ke bareme kya KAHUN. Both of them are PROVEN Ustads. We have enough proof of their knack and ability in earlier blogs. If Arvinderji can be considered among Ustads, Bhatiaji is Ustadon ka Ustad. They eventually slackened their pace. Thank you Bhatiaji and Arvinderji for your gesture.
Siddharthji, Mumbaikarji and Nasreenji thanks for being with us.
All things considered we are all winners. There are no losers here. Jignesh has something for everyone.
We all owe Jignesh a big thanks for doing an unrewarding job. He impressed us with his sense of commitment and sporting-spirit. When Akji asked him to take up the roll of Umpire, he could have just taken it lightly and declared everybody winners. Instead he took up the matter seriously and did a great work. This shows his character and I am sure this trait will be reflected in every aspect of his life. Being the youngest member of the SoY family (I presume), on behalf of everybody please accept our love, affection and blessings.
Thank you Akji for relaxing the basic criteria, and for pampering us to turn the post, “Kuchh to log kahenge”, into what it was not meant to be. Probably I was the main culprit to dilute the theme. Sorry for that. Yet you stood steadfast with us, in spite some murmurs of disapproval, (understandably). I do appreciate their concern.
With this vote of thanks on behalf of everybody, the curtain falls. I take the onus on me to declare the Kehnathlon 2016 closed. We will have a similar ????thlon after four years.
Thank you once again.
Sare Jahan se Achha SoY hamara
Hum bulbulain hai iss ki yeh gulsitan hamara
Sare jahan se accha
AK ‘ji ; Jignesh ‘ji ;
It has been a wonderful experience for me to be a part of this musical journey which got activated more ….matching the olympic games. Well we did not win many medals in olympics ; but here they were showered every where…. again well judged and well distributed ….citing the scores ….for which thanks goes to Jignesh ji for his well balanced observations.
My congratulation goes to all the winners and participants in this musical game .
Here I would like to propose a Toast for AK ji for his unending efforts, dedication and his inbuilt capacity to bring out the very best in post after post . I hope there are many more in his cupboard that are knocking the doors . I truly hope that every one will remain as active as they have been for the last so many years . I wish the supporting roles of Guest contributers will continue as well. . The last few guest articles by D P Rangan ji and Ms. Shalan Lal were not only entertaining but very informative as well. Thanks to them also.
A Song for AK ji…..
He is a jolly good fellow…..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqDOgeUaF7A
[ One may listen to this tiny little song from Awara that starts 3.00 min before the main song……Ek bewafa se pyar hua . This song is fav. among the Army and is usually sung on Graduation Day. This tune was also played in the old Hollywood film ….The bridge on the river kawai.]
Jignesh, AKji
Thanks for running this competition.It was a pleasure to participate with such stalwarts. My feeling is just like Deepa Karmakar , happy finishing in top 5 …having tried everything even Prodanova 🙂
Congrats to all the winners and especially Venkatramanji for his truely amazing run.
Jignesh
Sorry I am late again as I was busy. You have don a marvellous job. Though the official statistician of SOY is Venkataramanji, you handled the statistics in this matter efficiently. Your presentation was also very interesting. And alongwith Venkataramanji’s thanksgiving post it gave an impression as if there was a felicitation function going on. In most of the cases such job you handled are thought to be thankless jobs, but you have received thanks officially from Venkataramanji. I also thank you for this as well as your act of ‘chadhaing me on chane ka jhaad’. Looking at your talent, perhaps AK would think it proper to assign you such or similar jobs.
Regarding your comment to Mumbaikar8 on 3 sets vs 5 sets, I would say this is only half truth. Men play best of five sets only in the 4 grand slams, otherwise they are also playing best of 3 sets. During the year ATP and WTA hold separate tournaments and only a few tournaments are played by both. What is negative against women is that they dont demand money from WTA on the same scale as ATP for WTA tournaments. They demand equal money only from grand slams.
Venkataramanji
Thanks for the nice words. So far as song posting was concerned, I had no plan about the numbers. I went slowly because I felt a little bit shy after posting such a huge list. Regarding the comments to fellow posters, I saw that your request to bear with us for some time fell to deaf ears, so I thought it proper to say something and as AK says I say things differently, that was exactly what I did. I enjoyed the songs of all who posted. Since your taste differs from me, I particularly listen to songs posted by you and enjoyed them. Only the last set is yet to be listened. As per my observation, Bhatiaji, Mumbaikar8 and Sharmaji have a taste similar to me with Sharmaji having a little bit of your taste too.
I had proposed to Dinesh to post a list. Though he did not do that, but I made a list from the songs posted by others and I find the list contains songs from almost all of those who posted including Siddharth, Rakesh Srivastava, Mumbaikar8, Nasreen, Vaishnavji, Sameer, SSW, and naturally all three of you.
Now some songs all duets with another kind of competition between the pairs of Rafi-Asha and Lata-Hemant.
1. dekho wo chand chhupkar karta hai kya – shart – lata, hemant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vALbf4Iltfw
2. itna to kahdo humse – saheli – lata, hemant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9ulFrR40Wk
3. ek baar zara phir kah do – bin badal barsaat – lata, hemant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ogTW0c6Muo
4. dhalti jaye raat kahle dil ki baat – razia sultan (1961) – rafi, asha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mktpsweSEqw
5. ye rang bhare badal – tu nahin aur sahi – rafi, asha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDXswT-tFjs
6. humse na poochho hum kahan chale – china town – rafi, asha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fhOCGhZxbc
Now another competition between Lata and Asha solos.
1. ankhon se jo bhi aansoo bahega – sagai – lata
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjUKpxN-DQk
2. hazaar baaten kahe zamana – ghatna – lata
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPkrr784F_c
3. maine kab tumse kaha tha – ram aur shyam – lata
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7Pi7jrWnN0
4. chehre pe khushi chha jati hai – waqt – asha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvmE2YumfWM
5. aaj koi pyar se dil ki baaten kah gaya – sawan ki ghata – asha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYRL1zLCP0k
6. muhabbat cheej hai kya – ye raat phir na aayegi – asha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2y_7ne7oFY
Hansji,
I agree with you that each of us have different tastes and views / opinions as well, but respecting each other’s’ opinions is important. Thanks once again for the considerate words and support. I am glad that you enjoyed the songs posted by me.
Enjoyed listening to the songs posted by you. It was a pleasure listening to the songs, Hazaar baaten kahe zamana, Dhalti jaye Raat, again.
Incidentally, the songs Ek baar zara phir kah do, Itna to kahdo humse and Aaj koi pyar se dil ki baaten kah gaya were posted earlier by Bhatiaji.
As regards the song,Humse na poochho hum kahan chale, can we consider it as a kahna” (or its variants) song?
Thanks to all the legendary SoY persons for showering love, blessings and Hausla Afzaaii open-handedly over me.
Venkatraman ji @201 ;
Posting same songs by Hans ji and myself is bound to happen as we enjoy the same taste….. including Chat Papri and Gole gappe . [ we used to eat four items from our daily pocket money of Do Aanne during school days in mid 50s ] .
AK,
I am surprised how this song was missed ( by me). My favourite movie as well as song.
Perfect for this subject.
Better late than never.
Satyakam Abhi kya Sunoge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Al0pQQCM5LM
Mumbaikar8,
Abhi kya sunoge is a beautiful song, but “kahna” comes very marginally.
Venkataramanji
Thanks for your comment. ‘Humse na poochho hum kahan chale’ was a mistake. I was intending to post ‘is dharti is khule gagan ka kya kahna’ from ‘Ganga Tera Pani Amrit’ as the third Rafi-Asha duet, but suddenly this song came into mind and I posted it without listening the mukhda. The other songs I just posted for the comparison between the two pairs.
Regarding listening to other’s songs, what you said is right. I think that this practice of listening to the other’s taste broadens your spectrum. Due to this I listen to your songs very intently. And I know you and the others use self-filter to select only good quality songs. That was what I said to objectors. I myself sidelined 40-50 songs just because of this. If all of us had posted whatever came our way, perhaps there would have been 100 plus songs more than the number posted on the blog.
Hazaar baten kahe zamana is my absolute favourite and I would have watched the film only for this song, but the film never reached small towns. The lyrics of this song are also by Ravi. Whatever I am doing, a long playlist is playing (in random mode) on my computer and on the day I posted it, this song started and I immediately noted it down.
Bhatiaji
I would advise you to tone up your spine by regular exercise and dont listen much to the doctor unless you cannot move absolutely. They give more doses because they are not sure of either the medicine or its dose and their instructions are always strictly restrictive. Spinal problems can be controlled by exercise. And continue to post songs.
AKji
a small correction
Dil Hi To Hai perhaps belongs to 1963.
Hansji, Venkataramanji
you missed this one from your long list !
Main abhi gair hun mujhko abhi apna na Kaho
Haaye mar jayenge mit jayenge aisa na Kaho
Full details
Mein aur Mera Bai (1961) – C Arjun, Jan Nisar Akhtar
main abhi gair hoon mujhko abhi apna na – Mukesh & Asha
https://youtu.be/FBJr_M6phPg
Hans ji ; Venkatraman ji ;
Thanks for your concern. My problem started about two years back when on a rainy day I slipped on a wet floor. The back ache started a month after that…. which led to numbness of my feet after ten minutes of walking ; which generally vanish when i sit for a minute. The diagnoses shows compression of nerves passing thru the narrow back bones . I am taking medicines and doing excercises besides physio treatment . I am leading a normal domestic life. Only the wet weather makes me a little uncomfortable . Sitting, standing and walking for longer period is advised to be avoided . Frequent change of posture is to be insured as well.
AK ji ;
I was thinking of one song whose mukhda or even the stanzas don’t have the word… kahna or kaha…but it fits in the title of this theme . The song that I am refering to is the second part of the song……
Ajab hai daastan teri ae zindgi….[ …..jo maa beetoan pe uthate hai ungliyan….]…
Rafi……SJ…….Shararat
in continuation…..
Ajab hai daastan…….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrYJ-Sl_mwY
KS Bhatiaji,
I started with “kahna” being the central focus of the song. I relaxed it to the word occurring in the first two lines of the song.
Jignesh,
Thanks a lot for the correction. Since carried out.
Dear Readers,
After the stalwarts have made their closing remarks, and Venkataramanji has declared the competition closed, it is not good form to say anything. But I have been mentioned generously by the readers, and it seems I am expected to say something, so here is my कहना.
I do not intend any post to be a –thalon. Jignesh converted this into one, with the readers bitten by the Olympic Fever playing along. If 1.25 billion people can go crazy over a silver and a bronze, it is no wonder that our enthusiastic readers competed intensely for Gold, and as it turned out also a Platinum medal. In this hysteria, the sober voice of Dinesh was drowned, but I would revert to that later.
Jignesh must have started in jest, but when he saw the game becoming serious, he donned the mantle of the Judge Jignesh. He judged the competition in all seriousness admirably. He has been rightly complimented by all, and I also join in conveying my congratulations and thanks to him.
I started with a condition that mere occurrence of the word “kahna” would not be enough; it has to be the central theme of the song. But faced with the avalanche, I removed the barricade. Therefore, the conditions of the contest would be deemed to be modified as stated above, and the result of the competition would not be vitiated on the ground that the songs do not meet the condition put forth in the post.
I have to add that the Fair Play Award to N Venkataraman stands as he was conscious of the rules and asked whether his songs met the criteria. And towards the end, he was the only one who was remorseful that the criteria had to be sacrificed at the altar of public frenzy.
I have been asked to name an award for Mumbaikar8 for discovering the most hidden gems for SoY. Finding a suitable name for an award or for anything is a highly professional job. As an amateur, may I suggest महारत्नशोधिका; or since we are in a sporting mood, खिलाड़ियों की खिलाड़ी; or “Malika-e-SoY”. We may authorise the Judge Jignesh to select a final name after hearing the views of the readers.
A point for the stalwarts’ consideration. Some games – such as bridge tournaments at high levels – require that teams make a full disclosure of their systems, special understandings etc, along with written defence of special bids, to each other well in advance. It would be desirable for a level playing field that the star players disclose if they have special search algorithms for Google or YouTube.
It has been suggested to compile the list of all the songs posted. Here I come back to Dinesh’s point. I take quality versus quantity point as implying whether the songs posted were complying with the theme, i.e. whether the “kahna” was the central focus of the song. Here is the list of theme-compliant songs according to me. The list is made reader-wise in alphabetical order of the name of the reader, and if a song has been mentioned by several readers, effort has been made to attribute it to the reader who posted it first. Yet in an exercise of this magnitude there are bound to be errors. Also, since this is a subjective decision, at the margin there would be errors of inclusion and exclusion. The readers are invited to make representations about any mistake. I would request the Judge Jignesh to take a final decision on all such representations.
It goes without saying that I profusely thank all the readers for their participation, and also those who were just spectators.
List of songs with “kahna” as the central theme
Arunkumar Dehsmukh
Ek baar kahun mere piya sun le agar tu – Asha Bhosle (Amar)
Arvinder Sharma
Mittar pyare nu, haal mureedan da kahna – (Nanak Naam Jahaz Hai)
Ek dil ne kaha ek dil ne suna – Rafi (Parda)
Jo kucch humein kahna hai ishharon se kahenge – (Sabzbagh)
Insaaf ka mandir hai (kahna hai jo kah de) – Rafi (Amar)
Yak ah do hum insaan nahi – (Chhaya)
Diwana kah ke aaj mujhe phir pukariye – Rafi (Mujrim)
Mujhe tum se mohabbat hai magar main kah nahi sakta – (Bachpan)
Phir ek baar kaho – Dwijen Mukherjee & Lata Mangeshkar (Maya)
Tumse kaise kahun – Rafi & Lata Mnageshkar (Naach Ghar)
Ye kah do tumhein umse kya chaahiye – Surendra Kohli & Asha Bhosle (Gul-e-Bakavali)
Ek baar agar tu kah de – Mukesh (Malhar)
Kahta hai mera dil – Mukesh & Asha BHosle (Kunwari)
Aapne chen liya dil ise kya kahte hain – Rafi & Meena Mangeshkar (Farmaish)
Hare k baat pe kahte ho kit u kya hai – KL Saigal (Ghalib ghazal)
Papiha re mere piya se kahiyo jay – Parul Ghosh (Kismet)
Kuchh kah na sake – Amirbai Karnataki (Shahnaz)
Ashok M Vaishnav
Humein haal-e-dil unse kahna hai kahiye – Talat Mahmod & Asha Bhosle (Chaubees Ghante)
Ashwin Bhandarkar
Palkon ke peechhe se tumne kya kah dala – (Talash)
Giri
Zara kah do fizaaon se – Talat Mahmood & Mubarak Begum (Gogola)
Hans
Yun hasraton ke dagh – Lata Mangeshkar (Adalat)
Ye duniyawale poochhenge – Kishore Kumar & Asha Bhosle (Mahal)
Sharm aati hai magar aaj ye kahna hoga – Lata Mangeshkar (Padosan)
Log kahte hain ki hum tumse kinara kar lein – Rafi (Bahu Begum)
Mere dil mein hai ek baat kah dun to – Manna Dey & Lata Mangeshkar (Post Box 999)
Tujhe suraj kahun ya chanda – Manna Dey (Ek Phool Do Mali)
Chup ho aaj kaho kya hai baat – Kishore Kumar (36 GHante)
Bura mat suno bura mat dekho bura mat kaho – Rafi (Aya Sawan Jhoom Ke)
Duniya mein nahin koi yaar..zamana sach kahta hai – Rafi & Lata Mangeshkar (Amber)
Meri jaan meri jaan na kaho – Geeta Dutt (Anubhav)
Badtameez kaho ya kaho jaanwar – Rafi (Badtameez)
Qaid mein hai bulbul..kaha bhi na jaye chup raha bhi na jaye – Lata Mangeshkar (Bedard Zamana Kya Jaane)
Pate ki baat kahega kahega jab bhi diwana – Mukesh (Diwana)
Maine aur kya kiya baalam yahi to kah diya – Mahendra Kapoor & Asha Bhosle (Daadi Ma)
Kahnewale sach kah gaye hain – Chitalkar & Rafi (Nirala)
Tu mere pyar ka phool hai..kah nahi sakti – Lata Mangeshkar (Dhool Ka Phool)
Jaane wafa jaane tamanna kahun – Rafi & Lata Mangeshkar (Dil Tera Diwana)
Kah gaye Father Ibrahim – Manna Dey (Izzat)
Hamar kaha mano Rajaji – Asha bHosle (Dulhan Ek Raat Ki)
Duniya ek kahani re bhaiya tumne kah di – Rafi (Afsana)
Kuchh kahein to khafa – Rafi (Ek Shrima Ek Shrimati)
Dil job hi kahega maanenge – Mukesh (Dil Hi To Hai)
Humein tumse mohabbat hai magar hum kah nahi sakate – Asha Bhosle (Aurat)
Jo ek baar kah do – Rafi (Pooja)
Kaise kahun ji ke bain – KL Saigal (Devdas)
Wo saadagi kahein ise diwanagi kahein – Rafi (Shama)
Dekho kasam dekho kasam se kahte hain tumse han – Rafi & Asha BHosle (Tumsa Nahi Dekho)
Chahe koi mhjhe junglee kahe – Rafi (Junglee)
Kaise kahun man ki baat jia ki sanwariye – Asha Bhsole (Gehra Daag)
Tu laage mora baalma ye kaise kahun mai – Geta Dutt and Usha Khanna (Hum Hindustani)
Tere husn ki kya taareef karun kya kahte hye bhi darta hun – Rafi (Leader)
Dil to razamand hai – Asha Bhosle phir bhi zuban band hai – Asha Bhosle (Maai Baap)
Huzurewala jo ho izajat to hum ye saare jahan se kah de – Asha Bhosle 9Ye Raat Phir Bhi Na Ayegi)
Chori chori jo tumse mile mile to log kya kahenge – Mukesh & Lata Mangeshkar (Parasmani)
Jab ladka kah de haan – (Anjaam)
Baat itni si hai kah do – (Humrahi)
Ye jhuki jhuki nigaahein tere dil ka raaz kah gayin – (Aao Pyar Karen)
Itna to kah do humse – Hemant Kumar & Lata Mangeshkar (Saheli)
Hazaar baatein kahe zamana – Lata Mangeshkar (Ghatna)
KS Bhatia
Kashti ka kahmosh safar hai – Kishore Kumar and Sudha Malhotra (Girl Friend)
Kuchh dil ne kaha..kuchh aisi bhi baatein hoti hain – Lata Mangeshkar (Anupama)
Jaane kya tune kahi – Geeta Dutt (Pyasa)
Kucch aur zamana kahta hai – Meena Kapoor (Chhoti Chhoti Baatein)
Mere piya se koi ja ke kah de – Lata Mangeshkar (Ashiyana)
Hum haal-e-dil sunayenege suniye kin a suniye – Mubarak Begum (Madhumati)
Maine kaha tumse humein pyar hai – Mukesh & Mukesh & Lata Mngeshkar (Ma Beta)
Kah do kah do jahan se ye kah do – Rafi & Suman Kalyanpur (April Fool)
Kuchh bi na kaha kah bi gaye – Noorjehan (Prem Kahani)
Ek baat kahun – Mukesh & Suman Kalyanpur (Shreeman Satyavadi)
Tumse kuchh kahna hai – Mukesh & Lata Mangeshkar (Guest House)
Ek baar zara tum kah do – Hemant Kumar & Lata Mageshkar (Bin Badal Barsat)
Na bole na bole na bole re – Lata Mangeshkar (Azaad)
Aaj koi pyar se dil ki baatein kah gaya – Asha Bhosle (Saawan Ki Ghata)
Mumbaikar8
Ya dil ki suno duniyawalo – Hemant Kumar (Anupama)
Kahne ki nahi baat magar – (Pyar Kiye Ja)
Kahne ko bahut kuchh tha – CH Atma (NFS)
Kah do ji kah do – Manna Dey & Lata Mangeshkar (Kismet K Khel)
Nazare kuchh nahi kahte – Lata Mngeshkar (Madhr Milan)
Ae saba kahna mere dildaar ko – Rafi (Kabuliwala)
Abhi kya sunoge – Lat Mangeshkar (Satyakam)
Nasreen
Kah dun tumhe ya chup rahun – Kishore Kumar (Deewar)
Tumko paye – (Om Shanti Om)
Zara nazron se kah do ji – Hemant Kumar (Bees Saal Baad)
Dil mera kahne ko beqaraar hai – (Kaho Na Pyar Hai)
N Venkataraman
Kahta hai ye dil baar baar – Nalii Jaywant (Aadab Arz)
Unse hum kuchh kahte kahte rah gaye – Lata Mangeshkar (Dil Ki Basti)
Lo ji sun lo tumse kahte hain – Mukesh & Surinder Kaur (Sunehere Din)
Ab mujhe apni tasveer se kuchh kahna hai – (Khamosh Nigaahein)
Main kaise kah dun apne dil ki baatein – Rafi & Amribai Karnataki (Jeevan Sathi)
Kaise kah dun bajariya ke beech – Lata Mangeshkar (Ladli)
Man ki batiyan ka re bolun – Kanan Devi (Ma, 1936)
Ja ri sakhi sajan se kah de – Surendra & Maya Banerjee (Dynamite, 1939)
Maine kaha Babuji itana bataaoge – Rafi & Lata Mangeshkar (Chhti Bhabhi)
Suno buzurgo ye kahna – Ram Kamlani (Meena Bazar, 1950)
Dil unse kahte darta hai – Lata Mangeshkar & Geeta Dutt (Surajmukhi)
Kah kah do kali badari daraye na – Geeta Dutt & Surinder Kaur (Khamosh Sipahi)
Mujhse ye kah rahi hai – Rafi, Geeta Dutt & Shamsha Begum (Gauna)
Kaise kahun aise kahun – Lata Mangeshkar (Kaise Kahun)
Aise mein kachhu kaha nahi jaye – Asha Bhosle (Bambai Ka Babu)
Sharmilee nigahein kahati hain – Asha Bhosle (Society)
Dekho mose saachi kaho Banwari – Latra Mangeshkar (Madbhare Nain)
Kahne ko hain taiyar magar kaise kahein hunm – Surendra & Geeta Dutt (Kamal)
Bolo bolo ha bolo bolo re sajanva – Nirmala (Kanoon, 1943)
Main kaise kahun toote huye dil ki kahani – Amirbai Karnataki (Nargis, 1946)
Kuchh kah na sake kuchh kah bhi gaye – Amirbai Karnataki (Shahnaz ((1948)
Ai dil tere gamon ka main kahun kisse fasana – Rajkumari (Parda, 1949)
Hawa tu unse jakar kah de – Rafi & Shamshad Begum (Rimjhim, 1949)
Sach kahta hai Johnny Walker – Asha Bhosle (Aji Bas Shukriya)
Aankhon mein aankhein daal ke kya kahna chahte ho – Shamshad Begum (Toofan Aur Diya)
Bedardi nazarein mila ke kah de kya hai teri marzi – Lata Mangeshkar (Aji Bas Shukriya)
Ae saba unko kah do zara – Rafi & Shamshad Begum (Alibaba Aur 40 Chor)
Kaha hai unhone ye raaz-e-mohabbat qasam hai tumhein kisis se na kahna – Lata Mangeshkar (Anhonee)
Mere piya se koi ja ke kah de – Lata Mangeshkar (Ashiyana)
Kya kya kahun re Kanha – P Susheela (Piya Milan, 1958)
Kuch apni kahiye kuchh meri suniye – Firdausi Begum/Bahseer Ahmaed (Talaaash, Pakistani film 1963)
Ja kahiyo unse naseeme shahar – Mehdi Hasan (NFS)
Kaho ek baar mujhe tumse hai pyar – Talat Mahmood & Geeta Dutt (Shabistan)
Sajanva phir to kaho ek baar – Asha Bhosle (Raftar, 1955)
Ae ji O ji kaho ji – Rafi & Shamshad Begum (Chandi Puja, 1957)
Hum kisi se na kahenge chupp chup se rahenge – Shamshad Begum & Geeta Dut (Yahudi Ki Ladki)
Kuchh tum jo kaho humse – Asha Bhoisle (Thokar, 1953)
Dil ki baatein dil mein hi rakhna kabhi kisi se na kahna – Hemant Kumar (Taj Aur Talwar)
Kahti hun har baar yahi – tujhse mera payar ji – Shamshad Begum (Tajposhi)
Jal jal ke marun kuchh kah na sakun – Mubarak Begum (Sheesha)
Hum dil ki kahani kya kahte kuch kah bhi gaye kuchh kah na sake – Lata Mangeshkar (Shaadi Ki Raat)
Kaun kahe unse jake huzoor – Asha Bhosle (Paapi)
Socho ji socho ji zamana kya kahta hai – Rafi & Asha Bhosle (Zamana Badal Gaya)
Raj
Dil jo na kah saka – Rafi/ Lata Mangeshkar (Bheegi Raat)
Koi kah de kah de zamane se ja ke – Asha Bhosle (Bahaareir Phir Bhi Ayengi)
Rakesh Srivastava
Apni kaho kuchh meri suno – Talat Mahmood and Lata Mangeshkar (Parchhain)
Samir
Kahta hai joker (Mera Naam Joker)
Jo tumko ho pasand wohi baat akhenge – Mukesh (Safar)
Na bole tum na maine kucch kaha – (Baaton Baaton Mein)
Suniye kahiye (Baaton Baaton Mein)
Shalini
Suno kaho suna kaha – (Aap Ki Kasam)
Kuchh kahta hai ye saawna – (Mera Gaaon Mera Desh)
Siddharth
Baat karni mujhe mushqil kabhi aisi to na thi – Mehdi Hasan
Kaise kahein hum pyar ne humko – (Sharmilee)
Zara sun lo hum apane pyar ka afsana kahte hain – Lata Mangeshkar (Bazar)
Angrezi mein kahte hain –Kishore Kumar (Khuddar)
Papa Kahte hain – Udit Narayan (Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak)
Ik baat kahun gar mano tum – Golmaal
Soch rahi thi kahun ya na kahun – (Ek Phool Chaar Kaante)
Kehna hi kya – (Bombay)
Dil cheez kya hei..bas ek baar mera kaha maan lijiye (Umrao Jaan)
Mana teri nazar mein—kaise kahein tere talabgar hain hum (Ahista Ahista)
Kaun kahta hai ki mohabbat ki zuban hoti hai – Jagjit-Chitra Singh
Agar hum kahein aur wo muskura dein – Jagjit-Chitra Singh
Kal chaudavi ki raat thi..kuch ne kaha ye chaand hai – Jagjit Singh
Wo chup rahein to mere dil ke daag jalte hain – Lata Mangeshkar (Jahan Ara)
Koi ye kah de gulshan gulshan – Begum Akhtar
Maai ri main kaase kahun peer apne piya ki – Lata Mangeshkar (Dastak)
SSW
Kah rahin hain dhadkane pukar kar – Talat Mahmood & Geeta Dutt (La Pari)
AK
After winnowing the chaff you have put up a long list conforming to the theme in all respects. It means the suggestions were not very much off the mark. When it is given the final approval, I will attempt to codify it for future records. It is a herculean task you have accomplished. You must have analysed each song and included it. If there are representations galore, the one member bench headed by Judge Jignesh will have to adjudicate. Considering he is as industrious as an act, how he will find time to do this would be a nine days wonder.
Sorry for slip. Please read “as industrious as an ant”
Akji,
Ranganji has aptly said – “winnowing the chaff”. Listening to the mukhdas (I assume) of roughly 350 songs and selecting theme-compliant 150+ songs is an extraordinary task indeed. It is also heartening for those who have posted the songs. Thanks a lot.
Thank you for allowing me to retain the Fair play Award.
AK: Re your post on naming an award for Mumbaikar8, since you have asked for readers’ views, I like “Malika-e-SoY” the most.
But wouldn’t it be best to ask Mumbaikar8 herself for her preference?
Nasreen,
It may be awkward to accept the recipient. Your preference noted. Let us see how the Judge Jignesh rules.
Akji
so you have determined not to release me from this Judgeship !! 🙂 🙁
Jignesh
Ek kahavat hai : People who ride the tiger cannot get off it. Since you claim to be below 40, you are the permanent judge of SoY like permanent members of Security Council. Bite the bullet and adjudicate when called for. You can perhaps request AK to write posts with no possibility of dilution of the main theme in future to avoid opening flood gates.
DPRanganji
thanks for notifying me that i am on a tiger !
i wasnt confident enough but now i knew that where there is a Djokovic there is a Wawrinka.
as far as “Dilution” is concerned, i am not in favor to arrest it completely. It is the characteristic property of SoY, to jump from one topic to another, thru which SoY is flourished upto this higher level. This Dilution thing has earned too much knowledge and important data about music to this forum. Even this tornament has also added enough thrill and unearthed many gems here.
I feel I am too small to even contemplate commenting in this forum..
But i have just one small Q
“Na bole na bole na bole re, radha na bole ..”
Does this one fit this theme?
Thanks
Vijay,
Welcome to SoY here. We are all equal here. Na bole na bole is slightly off as it does not show any conflict.